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.....What is the price?
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If you have to ask you can't afford it. Actually statistically only about 15 people can afford it, and 2 would choose toWhat is the price?
I just got the PW Audio No 10 8-wire cable yesterday. It might make some sonic differences, but what I can absolutely say is this thing is a joy to look at. The physical qualities of it (sturdiness,materials used,shimmer of the silver) are really great. I like thicker/meatier cables like this and it fits the bill perfectly. And for being a big thick cable it's pretty pliable and doesn't hang on relentlessly to it's shape like some thinner cables that I have had to deal with in the past. Really well done overall.
Can't wait to get mine, should be arriving tomorrow or Monday. I think this must be one of those under-the-radar bargains because I don't hear much chatter about it. Especially the 8-wire. How many other 8-wire cables with this build quality and hardware and soft ergonomics and outstanding performance can you name that are anywhere close to the price of a No.10?I just got the PW Audio No 10 8-wire cable yesterday. It might make some sonic differences, but what I can absolutely say is this thing is a joy to look at. The physical qualities of it (sturdiness,materials used,shimmer of the silver) are really great. I like thicker/meatier cables like this and it fits the bill perfectly. And for being a big thick cable it's pretty pliable and doesn't hang on relentlessly to it's shape like some thinner cables that I have had to deal with in the past. Really well done overall.
I've owned the no.10 8-wire for a while now and I've got to say that it's a well behaved cable once the ear hooks settle in. I started to forget the weight after a while. As for the sound, it adds a little accent here and there for bass and treble. Sounds sweet with vocals, mainly.
Does anyone know what bore size the Trio are? I’m looking at getting some Symbio F eartips.
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Very serious. I spent quite a bit of time with it and Peter actually came into the shop while I was there testing (I didn't recognise him because he had a mask on
). We had a great chat about why the Orpheus was so rare and expensive. Even before he came in I had spent about 30 mins trying different IEMS, DAPS and songs and concluded it was really one of the most natural, resolving and uplifting cables I've ever used. This was before I knew anything about it. Works for all genres. The weird thing about the cable is that it is like an equaliser that somehow reads my mind and naturally enhances whatever makes the song special. Ie. If the song is known for vocals it will bring it out. If it's known for strings, same. And if it's drums (Steely Dan Aja Steve Gadd's drum solo) spotlight brought forward. I tried and each time no matter the track same effect.
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Hey guys, does anyone own the PW No. 5 8-wire? Can you perhaps share impressions with any of the 64 Audio IEMs (Trio specifically), and if possible compare it to the No. 10 8-wire?
I have the 4 wire No.5 that I’ve paired with the Trio. I’m not sure how that would differ though to 8 wire.
Not the 8-wire but the 4-wire specifically on the Trio...quoted from the review of twister6
No10 vs PWA No5 (cu) – this is probably going to be the most anticipated comparison. I spent a lot of time going back’n’forth between these two cables, and with either one the perception of soundstage is nearly the same, as well as imaging where vocals placed slightly out of your head when listening with Trio. With No5 sub-bass had more weight and was slightly elevated, while No10 also has sub-bass slightly elevated, but not on the same level as No5. I hear treble to be nearly the same, but mids is where I hear the biggest difference. With No5 mids/vocals are brighter and a little thinner, while with No10 they are smoother, more organic, and have a fuller body.
What's your take on the 4-wire with the Trio? Have you tried it with the Nio as well by any chance?
Thanks, I've read most of the reviews. Appreciate the links though.
I’m just trying Trio and No.5 right now to refresh my memory.
Ok...the first thing I notice is that it brings a bit of warmth to the presentation. It softens the high end that the Trio can have and seems to roll off the treble so that there is never any brightness or piercing highs.
It feels like it narrows the soundstage and brings the instruments a bit closer together, although separation is still good. I feel mids are a little bit recessed, not a deal breaker by any means though as it is relevant to other cables at this price point. If I compare it to my Thor Silver II+ say (possibly not the fairest comparison), the Thor brings those mids more forward. If compared to the Hyperion 8 Wire SPC which I used to own then the No.5 is much better IMO. Vocals sound nice but again it is with this overall warm presentation. I think this cable moves the singer back a couple of rows. Nothing major, but noticeable when comparing to cables at a higher lever.
Bass is good in quantity. It will add a nice thump where it’s needed, and all areas of the low end work well. I noticed on a track I’m listening to right now as I type, ‘Best of You’ by Foo Fighters, the No.5 and Trio do not try to add bass where it should not really be present. When it should be there though it does deliver. I said bass quantity was good. However, quality is perhaps not quite as good, but I mean that in terms of cables at a similar level. i.e. don’t expect 1960’s quality at No.5 price. That’s obvious I guess.
I think the No.5 is a top cable at the £100 to £200 price range. I mention that because I think we have to compare it like for like. I have two other cables, being Thor Silver II+ and 1950’s. The Thor is a step up in most regards and is essentially 5 times the price. So not a fair comparison. I would say though that the No.5 would make a good daily cable for when you are out and about or doing something at home. I like to use it when I am at home working as I find I can enjoy the music but without being pulled away from my work by crazy sound and detail.
Now I haven’t heard the 8 wire, but I would think that it would give the same general presentation but take it up a level. I could obviously be wrong on this, but if so I would ask why call it the No.5 still, if it actually becomes a different sound and feel? Like I said I might be wrong on that so just my personal thoughts on it. One thing I would say though is that PW Audio make very good cables and I’m happy with my purchases from them. If 8 wires does take the cable to the next level then it is probably something I would enjoy.
I do not have the Nio and so I can’t comment on that I’m afraid.
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