[jellofund]

  Thanks, this is super helpful. 
 
Can I ask, then, what is the difference between "line-out" mode and just cranking up the volume? Is the Mojo bypassing the amp section or are we still double-amping? I'm confused as I always thought line-out was nowhere near the voltage of an amplified headphone out signal. Apologies for the rookie questions here. 
 
-Collin-

 
That's not a problem!
 
I have to admit that I'm not very technically minded so a lot of the finer details probably went over my head. Started to type up a reply but then spotted a post (#18033) in the Mojo thread that explains things a lot better than I could hope to. 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/784602/chord-mojo-the-official-thread-please-read-the-3rd-post/18030#post_12603339
 
Hope this helps and think it essentially boils down to i) consider the Mojo to be a DAC offering a very clean variable line out, and, ii) don't worry about double amping.

 

[ericr]

...
Why, oh why, did you guys have to mention MHDT. I've been looking at all their models and am foaming at the mouth. Wonder if I could get by with the Canary as opposed to the Pagoda. 

-Collin-

If the price of the Pagoda is easy for you to swing then I would say go for it. Otherwise I would suggest the Canary. My second rig (usually at work) has the discontinued Paradisea 3 which is based on the same DAC chip as the Canary. Sure I like (well OK, love) the Pagoda, but is in no way a downer when using the Paradisea 3. I sold my Multi-bit Bifrost (aka Bimby) and kept the Paradisea 3 - if that is any indication. The Canary should only be better.

Also, the MHDT gear seems to hold its value rather well so you should be able to upgrade later without taking too much of a hit.

Hope that helps.

 

[SeeSax]

If the price of the Pagoda is easy for you to swing then I would say go for it. Otherwise I would suggest the Canary. My second rig (usually at work) has the discontinued Paradisea 3 which is based on the same DAC chip as the Canary. Sure I like (well OK, love) the Pagoda, but is in no way a downer when using the Paradisea 3. I sold my Multi-bit Bifrost (aka Bimby) and kept the Paradisea 3 - if that is any indication. The Canary should only be better.

Also, the MHDT gear seems to hold its value rather well so you should be able to upgrade later without taking too much of a hit.

Hope that helps.

Super helpful. Any idea where the Havana falls in the lineup? There's one in the classifieds for $450.

 

[ericr]

IMHO: Pagoda > Sockholm 2 > Havana 2 > Havana > Paradisea 3.

I've not heard the Atlantis or Canary.

If it's a Havana 2 and you are looking for maximum value for you $, I would suggest buying it right NOW. If it's the older Havana it's still worthwhile (especially if some additional tubes are included for the price).

Also see:

http://dhost.info/mhdtlab/mhdt dac families.htm

So as to not hijack this thead any more than we have, please post further MHDT questions here:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/798259/mhdt-labs-r-2r-nos-tube-dacs.

While you are there, note a recent post by @luckbad where he shares a link to his excellent and entertaining review that compares various DACS from MHDT Labs.

-Eric

 

[gug42]

Hello,
 
Well  I will soon have a project ember ! i'm very excited. My first tube ! and i will have 3 tubes with it !!
 
 
It's seems that some use precotion are needed : away from other electronical thing, seperate power supply ... is this true ?
 
By the way can I made an "iem shield" with a metal box or something  ? or is it a bad idea ?
 
For for the start I will use it with a Creative ZxR aop moded sources, and in few weeks with xduoo xd-05, and after something else ( very interesting in  schiit modi 2 multibit).
 
 
Thx in advance !

 

[HOWIE13]

  Hello,
 
Well  I will soon have a project ember ! i'm very excited. My first tube ! and i will have 3 tubes with it !!
 
 
It's seems that some use precotion are needed : away from other electronical thing, seperate power supply ... is this true ?
 
By the way can I made an "iem shield" with a metal box or something  ? or is it a bad idea ?
 
For for the start I will use it with a Creative ZxR aop moded sources, and in few weeks with xduoo xd-05, and after something else ( very interesting in  schiit modi 2 multibit).
 
 
Thx in advance !

 
Congratulations! 
 
I wouldn't consider any adaptations just now.
Most of the hum issues related to the use of exotic tubes or interference from other equipment.
Essentially Ember is a quiet amplifier and I would just see how you get on without purchasing any additional products at this stage.

 

[gug42]

Thx for you advice I stay like that and see thing coming

 

[mapotofu]

@RedBull
Yep, I wrote this comparison:


http://www.basshead.club/garage1217-project-ember-horizon-sunrise-review/

Thank you for this comparison.  I am considering getting the sunrise and/or ember.  It looks like the Ember is more versatile and would be better suited for my low impedance hp's (Fostex TH-900/TH-X00 are 25 ohms) but I am attracted to the more tube-like tone and class A designed MOSFET output.  I would appreciate any other feedback from anyone else who has experience with both of these amps.  Thanks!

 

[DavidA]

  Thank you for this comparison.  I am considering getting the sunrise and/or ember.  It looks like the Ember is more versatile and would be better suited for my low impedance hp's (Fostex TH-900/TH-X00 are 25 ohms) but I am attracted to the more tube-like tone and class A designed MOSFET output.  I would appreciate any other feedback from anyone else who has experience with both of these amps.  Thanks!

I have an Ember and its about as good as it gets for under $500 but for some headphones like my HD-800, T1 and DT-990 premium 250ohm they sound better on my BH Crack and my HE-560 is a little better on my Lyr2.  With the HD-800 and T1 the sound difference between the Ember and BH Crack is easy to notice but with the DT-990, HD-700, HE-400i, LCD-2 the differences between the Ember and Lyr2 are subtle and sometimes I can't tell the difference.

 

[gug42]

Hello,

Thank you for sgaring

Like you say so little differences soundbetween lyr2 and ember : but a huge one for tube rolling only one for ember

Regards,

 

[DavidA]

Hello,

Thank you for sgaring

Like you say so little differences soundbetween lyr2 and ember : but a huge one for tube rolling

only one for ember

Regards,

Just remember that the headphones in use make a difference in the impression.

 

[mapotofu]

Just placed an order for both the Ember and the Sunrise.  Very excited!  

 

[Tunkejazz]

Preparing to separate rigs?

 

[mapotofu]

  Just placed an order for both the Ember and the Sunrise.  Very excited!  

 
Jeremy just sent me these photos.  
 

 

[nwavesailor]

   
Jeremy just sent me these photos.  
 

You are set!
 
Let the tube rolling begin..........................