Point to Point Wiring done correctly
Oct 21, 2004 at 6:23 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 28
kevin gilmore

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It turns out that Woo Audio (initially without my permission) is building
and selling my electrostatic all tube amplifier. So here are a couple of
pictures.

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgtubeelectro.jpg

and a closeup

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgtubeelectro2.jpg

This is how this kind of stuff is supposed to be built.
Equipment that is audio jewelry on the outside also needs to
be audio jewelry on the inside.

There is no excuse or justification for miserable assembly techniques
or cold solder joints.

Here is the original

http://headwize.com/projects/showfil...ilmore_prj.htm
 
Oct 21, 2004 at 6:56 PM Post #2 of 28
Kevin,

That can truly be described as "state of the art wiring" and is in a totally different league from some of the other examples we have seen recently which can more aptly be described as "state of the arc"
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Oct 21, 2004 at 7:02 PM Post #3 of 28
Yeah now that's a nice looking thought out example of workmanship.

That’s how a manufacturer will differentiate themselves from the masses.

Functional, elegant and repeatable from unit to unit.

Congratulations on a nicely executed design.


Mitch
 
Oct 21, 2004 at 7:29 PM Post #5 of 28
Looks great! You can hardly see the solder. That amp might also be twice as big if the parts weren't so carefully wedged in.
 
Oct 21, 2004 at 10:18 PM Post #6 of 28
I am so happy for Mr. Woo. It was a shaky start mind you
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KG was right in being concerned about someone implementing his design - just in case the build quality was not up to the mark.

Mr. Woo does some excellent builds. Those of you who saw my Woo Audio 1 review will know what I am talking about.

This is NOT a commercial product just yet...probably will never become a commercial product but I am not making any promises on that. There are no samples available just yet for demo and I have dibs on the first one that comes out
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Anyway - If you want to build something - GET PERMISSION and DO A GOOD JOB!!
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Simple really...
 
Oct 21, 2004 at 10:32 PM Post #7 of 28
WOW!
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Heheh, "State of the Arc". Well, I came very closed to killing myself yesterday from sheer stupidity.

I had a small run of romex 20A line to an new outlet. I was installing wiretracks raceway ducting. Well, long story short, romex is not armored. So, I used a screw that was a little too long, not paying attention to where the romex was, and POW!

Lights go out. And I am practically blind. I wasn't in pain, so I thought I just killed myself. But fortunately I had the foresight to see my future stupidity, and had bought an insulated electrician's screwdriver.

My favorite tool right now.

I'm really really paranoid about shorts now.

-Ed
 
Oct 21, 2004 at 10:32 PM Post #8 of 28
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin gilmore
It turns out that Woo Audio (initially without my permission) is building
and selling my electrostatic all tube amplifier


So far only building...not yet selling....maybe never...I hope he goes into production
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Oct 21, 2004 at 10:38 PM Post #9 of 28
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin gilmore
It turns out that Woo Audio (initially without my permission) is building
and selling my electrostatic all tube amplifier. So here are a couple of
pictures.

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgtubeelectro.jpg

and a closeup

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgtubeelectro2.jpg

This is how this kind of stuff is supposed to be built.
Equipment that is audio jewelry on the outside also needs to
be audio jewelry on the inside.

There is no excuse or justification for miserable assembly techniques
or cold solder joints.

Here is the original

http://headwize.com/projects/showfil...ilmore_prj.htm



I am curious how initially it was stolen but now it's ok? I'd like to hear the story behind it? Aren't you upset he took your design? Did he contact you for permission after the fact? Are you getting royalties?
 
Oct 21, 2004 at 10:40 PM Post #10 of 28
I think all Gilmore designs are free and can be made by anyone, you just need to get permission if you want to sell them.
 
Oct 21, 2004 at 10:45 PM Post #11 of 28
Quote:

Originally Posted by sygyzy
I am curious how initially it was stolen but now it's ok? I'd like to hear the story behind it? Aren't you upset he took your design? Did he contact you for permission after the fact? Are you getting royalties?



It was never "stolen" per se because it was never advertised commercially with a price tag. Action was taken in time and the potential problems were avoided.

About the royalties - you better ask Kevin Gilmore - but he doesnt strike me as the kind of man who sits around waiting for checks to arrive in the mail
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Oct 21, 2004 at 11:22 PM Post #12 of 28
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I am curious how initially it was stolen but now it's ok?

I was pointed to the web page in question by Chu Moy.
Once i saw the insides pictures i determined it met my requirements
and then i gave the guy permission to do what he was already doing.
Not the way i really prefer to do this, but the whole thing was done
without a single threat and without any lawyers.
http://wooaudio.com/products/wooaudio_electro.html



I do not accept royalties from anyone for any reason with respect to
audio equipment in general and headphone amplifiers in specific.

I did get a rather healty royalty from the sale of a company recently of
which i was a significant investor.

I did get royalties from a software program i wrote for a major automotive
paint manufacturer based in italy. Absolutely fabulous stuff and priced
accordingly (the paint that is).

My requirements are simple. You can produce and sell my stuff as long
as the overall quality is outstanding, or better. Quality parts, Quality
boards (when necessary), quality assembly...

The one person (outside the usa) that tried to get me to allow him to
make my stuff with phenolic single sided boards and substitute cheap
junk for all the transistors and other parts was not allowed to do so.
I'm not interested in cheap.

And i'm perfectly willing to protect my property should it ever become
necessary. Trust me on this one.
 
Oct 21, 2004 at 11:47 PM Post #14 of 28
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin gilmore
quote
I am curious how initially it was stolen but now it's ok?

I was pointed to the web page in question by Chu Moy.
Once i saw the insides pictures i determined it met my requirements
and then i gave the guy permission to do what he was already doing.
Not the way i really prefer to do this, but the whole thing was done
without a single threat and without any lawyers.
http://wooaudio.com/products/wooaudio_electro.html



I do not accept royalties from anyone for any reason with respect to
audio equipment in general and headphone amplifiers in specific.

I did get a rather healty royalty from the sale of a company recently of
which i was a significant investor.

I did get royalties from a software program i wrote for a major automotive
paint manufacturer based in italy. Absolutely fabulous stuff and priced
accordingly (the paint that is).

My requirements are simple. You can produce and sell my stuff as long
as the overall quality is outstanding, or better. Quality parts, Quality
boards (when necessary), quality assembly...

The one person (outside the usa) that tried to get me to allow him to
make my stuff with phenolic single sided boards and substitute cheap
junk for all the transistors and other parts was not allowed to do so.
I'm not interested in cheap.

And i'm perfectly willing to protect my property should it ever become
necessary. Trust me on this one.



Great story, just the kind I wanted to hear. Thanks for the background.
 
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