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My experience with different music players.
Jan 15, 2022 at 6:35 PM Post #181 of 205
I bought a decent external DAC that uses USB or optical and could quickly switch between the two. There were noticeable differences with the most noticeable being the smaller soundstage with USB. With my motherboard the SPDIF only works if I have the builtin soundcard turned on in the bios. As per someones suggestion on this forum I installed a PCIE USB adaptor and DAC has it exclusively. After that, both SPDIF and the external DAC sound much closer to each other. The external DAC is far better of course with more detail and separation.
 
Mar 14, 2022 at 3:56 AM Post #182 of 205
Mar 15, 2022 at 11:28 AM Post #183 of 205
seeteeyou said:
FYI - here's a relatively new one called SounDevil

https://inf.news/en/digital/7835af1f64e7e7ed67a676299e000f3c.html
https://inf.news/digital/7835af1f64e7e7ed67a676299e000f3c.html
http://www.erji.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2252466

All versions are available for free

https://gofile.io/d/CnDhNs
https://pan.baidu.com/s/1Kmt2Bq-zwIVYzSkDnI5TBw?pwd=wgd3
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Thank you for the suggestion. As for initial impressions (haven’t tried any convolution filters yet), I think it sounds similar to ulilith on my system. I remember both wtfplay and xxhighend to be noticeably better but this player has additional features and a nice ui!
 
Mar 15, 2022 at 2:22 PM Post #184 of 205
Mar 18, 2022 at 10:59 AM Post #185 of 205
manueljenkin said:
Thank you for the suggestion. As for initial impressions (haven’t tried any convolution filters yet), I think it sounds similar to ulilith on my system. I remember both wtfplay and xxhighend to be noticeably better but this player has additional features and a nice ui!
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Have you tried the linux version of album player, they have a bootable image for rpi which makes it easy to hand on. It has a builtin convolver and this makes it different.
 
Mar 18, 2022 at 2:40 PM Post #186 of 205
The most issues i had so far haven't been with any player, the most issues i had have been with Bluetooth, especially LDAC

But since the release of pipewire (https://pipewire.org/) i sadly got all Bluetooth (and especially LDAC) issues solved. So i now always have my Walkman connected via LDAC.

As Music Player i am recently testing Elisa https://apps.kde.org/elisa/ which works fine so far
 
Mar 18, 2022 at 6:20 PM Post #187 of 205
Lemma said:
Have you tried the linux version of album player, they have a bootable image for rpi which makes it easy to hand on. It has a builtin convolver and this makes it different.
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Thank you for the suggestion. I haven’t tried the Linux version yet. I don’t have a sbc like rpi at the moment, but would be eager to give it a try soon.
 
Mar 24, 2022 at 7:18 PM Post #188 of 205
Is Roon considered a player?
 
Apr 11, 2022 at 9:37 PM Post #190 of 205
Squeeze player generally has good reviews when using via servers.
 
Apr 14, 2022 at 6:49 PM Post #191 of 205
seeteeyou said:
FYI - here's a relatively new one called SounDevil

https://inf.news/en/digital/7835af1f64e7e7ed67a676299e000f3c.html
https://inf.news/digital/7835af1f64e7e7ed67a676299e000f3c.html
http://www.erji.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2252466

All versions are available for free

https://gofile.io/d/CnDhNs
https://pan.baidu.com/s/1Kmt2Bq-zwIVYzSkDnI5TBw?pwd=wgd3
Click to expand...
Fantastic sound quality and simple interface. Works with DSD native which is a blessing. Finally i don't have to waste time/deal with the lousy interface of bug head emperor.
 
Apr 22, 2022 at 4:56 AM Post #192 of 205
seeteeyou said:
FYI - here's a relatively new one called SounDevil

https://inf.news/en/digital/7835af1f64e7e7ed67a676299e000f3c.html
https://inf.news/digital/7835af1f64e7e7ed67a676299e000f3c.html
http://www.erji.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2252466

All versions are available for free

https://gofile.io/d/CnDhNs
https://pan.baidu.com/s/1Kmt2Bq-zwIVYzSkDnI5TBw?pwd=wgd3
Click to expand...
Hello, everyone. I'm the author of SounDevil.
It is a new software, which has been updated frequently in recent months.
I uploaded the new version to GoFile. Welcome to use and feedback.
https://gofile.io/d/KibnlN
 
Apr 22, 2022 at 12:51 PM Post #193 of 205
Testando o jogador.

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Apr 29, 2022 at 11:03 PM Post #194 of 205
Joe Mak said:
Hello, everyone. I'm the author of SounDevil.
It is a new software, which has been updated frequently in recent months.
I uploaded the new version to GoFile. Welcome to use and feedback.
https://gofile.io/d/KibnlN
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Did you code the audio library from scratch? I wish to explore this area, but not sure of resources to learn from. Would love to know suggestions. Also I wish to explore how to improve Bluetooth audio (it can’t be fully fixed but there are few things that can be done in the SBC encoder side to make things better, like higher precision volume control, etc before encoding. Not sure how much of this is controlled by the Bluetooth audio driver/codec). I do want to implement the player on top of windows kernel streaming, which in supported players have given me the best sound quality so far.

Something like this: http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-sbc-xq-bluetooth-audio-codec
 
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Apr 30, 2022 at 2:36 AM Post #195 of 205
manueljenkin said:
Did you code the audio library from scratch? I wish to explore this area, but not sure of resources to learn from. Would love to know suggestions. Also I wish to explore how to improve Bluetooth audio (it can’t be fully fixed but there are few things that can be done in the SBC encoder side to make things better, like higher precision volume control, etc before encoding. Not sure how much of this is controlled by the Bluetooth audio driver/codec). I do want to implement the player on top of windows kernel streaming, which in supported players have given me the best sound quality so far.

Something like this: http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-sbc-xq-bluetooth-audio-codec
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Scratch, no. SounDevil uses a custom audio engine.
Bluetooth, unfamiliar.
Windows kernel streaming, it's rare now because there's a modern alternative: WASAPI Exclusive Mode.
 
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