Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Dec 28, 2014 at 5:28 PM Post #15,316 of 16,931
@joker, what are your thoughts for the RE600, is there a big enough difference to warrant the 100 price from the RE400? I'm really looking at getting the RE600. I have the GR07be and a few people here think the RE600 is an upgrade from the 07be. I would be using them strictly for my DX90.
 
Dec 28, 2014 at 6:37 PM Post #15,317 of 16,931
@joker, what are your thoughts for the RE600, is there a big enough difference to warrant the 100 price from the RE400? I'm really looking at getting the RE600. I have the GR07be and a few people here think the RE600 is an upgrade from the 07be. I would be using them strictly for my DX90.

Howdy howdy!
 
  1. Take a look at ljokerl's review of the RE400 and RE600 where he compares the two.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/hifiman-re-400-waterline-and-re-600-songbird-dynamic-ear-monitors-page-2
 
  1. Regarding sound rating difference between the two:
http://theheadphonelist.com/#comment-32761
A sidegrade more or less, depending on what exactly you’re looking for. I thought the RE-600 performed quite similarly to the RE-400 so I wouldn’t rate them more than 0.1-0.2 apart. See review here: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/hifiman-re-400-waterline-and-re-600-songbird-dynamic-ear-monitors-page-2

 
  1. Considering the price drop to 199$
http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/hifiman-re-400-waterline/#comment-52516
I just don’t think it’s that different from the RE-400. $199 is a decent price but the performance gap is not very big. Combine that with a sound signature that’s also quite similar to the RE-400 and you’ll just not see as much of a change either way as with the others. See here for sound comparison: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/hifiman-re-400-waterline-and-re-600-songbird-dynamic-ear-monitors-page-2

 
  1. For people who already own the RE400:
http://theheadphonelist.com/deal-alert-hifiman-re-400-free-shipping-head-direct-com/#comment-39055
If you didn’t already have the RE-400, I would be tempted to recommend the RE-600 at that price. However, as an upgrade to an RE-400 you already have, it just doesn’t make that much sense. It’s a good signature for your taste, just not majorly different from the RE-400 (see my InnerFidelity review of both for a comparison).

 
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Dec 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM Post #15,318 of 16,931
@joker, what are your thoughts for the RE600, is there a big enough difference to warrant the 100 price from the RE400? I'm really looking at getting the RE600. I have the GR07be and a few people here think the RE600 is an upgrade from the 07be. I would be using them strictly for my DX90.

 
the dx90 makes a very nice pair with the RE-600 , it is my combo as well. you will dig it.
 
Dec 28, 2014 at 9:33 PM Post #15,320 of 16,931
Howdy howdy!

  • Take a look at ljokerl's review of the RE400 and RE600 where he compares the two.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/hifiman-re-400-waterline-and-re-600-songbird-dynamic-ear-monitors-page-2

  • Regarding sound rating difference between the two:
http://theheadphonelist.com/#comment-32761

  • Considering the price drop to 199$
http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/hifiman-re-400-waterline/#comment-52516

  • For people who already own the RE400:
http://theheadphonelist.com/deal-alert-hifiman-re-400-free-shipping-head-direct-com/#comment-39055

Follow the links to understand the context of the question (if required)

Thanks for all of the insight. I think I will actually just stick with my Vsonic as it seems like they are similar.
 
Dec 29, 2014 at 10:33 PM Post #15,321 of 16,931
^ That's more thorough than I could be 
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Dec 29, 2014 at 11:59 PM Post #15,322 of 16,931
joker,
 
looks like someone likes your opinion quite a lot....
 
http://www.best-in-ear-headphones.net/akg-k3003-k3003i-review/
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 12:35 AM Post #15,323 of 16,931
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Dec 30, 2014 at 1:56 AM Post #15,324 of 16,931
Dec 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM Post #15,325 of 16,931
  joker,
 
looks like someone likes your opinion quite a lot....
 
http://www.best-in-ear-headphones.net/akg-k3003-k3003i-review/

 
Thanks, seen that site before. I think what they do is run my review through an automated translator to another language and then back to English. This changes the wording and grammar to some lower form of the language, but it preserves the gist of it (and apparently the SEO potential). It's also not technically a copy of my content but rather a paraphrase, which makes copyright more hazy.
 
They make money off people stumbling on the site via search and clicking the Amazon affiliate link at the bottom. 

Pretty smart, actually.
 
Just in case you want to try to file a complaint:
 

 
Thanks. Figures that it's overseas - much harder to get to. I have an idea for getting rid of it but for now let's just not give them any traffic 
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That's rewritten in less than adequate English right? I don't think it's as much of an infringement as it's just plain tasteless. Just had a quick peek at it and I've read maybe 100-150 of the reviews here but didn't quite recognize the language use.

 
See above for how I think it's done. Probably falls into a gray area where it won't be automatically considered infringement. 
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 7:02 PM Post #15,326 of 16,931
I need some help... I originally bought brainwavz b2's and they were great until one ear failed, so I got an RMA and sent them off for warranty, well I couldn't stand generics for very long so I ordered some rha ma-750s and and those were great until the cords (above the Y started to come apart and bare wires were exposed (I work with some solvents and other chemicals that this particular cord did not like one bit), I stopped wearing them so as not to do any permanent damage, so my question is, who or where can I send these things to be serviced, I asked RHA but because I didn't purchase from authorized retailer, they aren't covered under warranty (I knew that when I purchased them) but they also won't allow me to even pay them to rewire them, so I need someone who can rewire them for me... they (RHA) also wouldn't give me a referral, is there such a person/place that can/will rewire my RHA MA750s? if so, who? 
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 7:53 PM Post #15,327 of 16,931
  I need some help... I originally bought brainwavz b2's and they were great until one ear failed, so I got an RMA and sent them off for warranty, well I couldn't stand generics for very long so I ordered some rha ma-750s and and those were great until the cords (above the Y started to come apart and bare wires were exposed (I work with some solvents and other chemicals that this particular cord did not like one bit), I stopped wearing them so as not to do any permanent damage, so my question is, who or where can I send these things to be serviced, I asked RHA but because I didn't purchase from authorized retailer, they aren't covered under warranty (I knew that when I purchased them) but they also won't allow me to even pay them to rewire them, so I need someone who can rewire them for me... they (RHA) also wouldn't give me a referral, is there such a person/place that can/will rewire my RHA MA750s? if so, who? 


Looks like you need to invest in some IEMs where the cable is replaceable.
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 9:59 PM Post #15,329 of 16,931
 
DN-2000 is a little v/u-shaped, probably not a great fit for you.
 
Minus the bass, which is no more powerful than with the RE-400/RE-600, you'd really like the old RE272 that HiFiMan discontinued. 
 
The RE-600 is something I don't usually recommend as it's just not enough of an upgrade over the RE-400. With that said, however, they are both top-tier earphones, so finding an upgrade from them both will be tough.
 
Someone recently asked a similar comment but emphasizing bass as far as RE-400 upgrades go. I ended up recommending the TDK BA200, StageDiver SD-2, and Custom Art Music one: http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/hifiman-re-400-waterline/#comment-52516 . I still think they might be good options here - you get the balance, you get a bit more bass, and you get smooth, refined treble as well. Maybe not better than the RE-400 in treble refinement, but again it's tough to find an all-around upgrade to the HiFiMan without giving something up. 

 
Thanks for recommendations! Since the SD-2 and Music One both seem to be more $300, I'm looking closely at the BA200. My concern there is the treble spike and claims of sibilance. I'm pretty sensitive to it and wondering if it's worse than average. I don't expect something as forgiving as the RE-400, and can probably mitigate a small amount with different tips, but if it's pronounced I might just stick with the RE-600.
If you prefer forward and detailed mids with a good amount of thickness you should try IM70 which I love for its vocal presentation too. I find it as an upgrade to RE400 overall.

This sounds like another good option. Can you share a bit more detail comparing them directly to the RE-400? If that's already been done somewhere I'd be happy to jump to the link. :)
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 11:14 PM Post #15,330 of 16,931
  I need some help... I originally bought brainwavz b2's and they were great until one ear failed, so I got an RMA and sent them off for warranty, well I couldn't stand generics for very long so I ordered some rha ma-750s and and those were great until the cords (above the Y started to come apart and bare wires were exposed (I work with some solvents and other chemicals that this particular cord did not like one bit), I stopped wearing them so as not to do any permanent damage, so my question is, who or where can I send these things to be serviced, I asked RHA but because I didn't purchase from authorized retailer, they aren't covered under warranty (I knew that when I purchased them) but they also won't allow me to even pay them to rewire them, so I need someone who can rewire them for me... they (RHA) also wouldn't give me a referral, is there such a person/place that can/will rewire my RHA MA750s? if so, who? 

 
There was a company that did recables and even installed detachable cable sockets on IEMs but the name eludes me at the moment. Maybe someone else can remember. 
 
   
Thanks for recommendations! Since the SD-2 and Music One both seem to be more $300, I'm looking closely at the BA200. My concern there is the treble spike and claims of sibilance. I'm pretty sensitive to it and wondering if it's worse than average. I don't expect something as forgiving as the RE-400, and can probably mitigate a small amount with different tips, but if it's pronounced I might just stick with the RE-600.

 
I think the BA200 is better than average in that regard, just not as good as the RE-400 (which is way better than average) or Music One/SD-2 (again, way better than average)
 

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