[MikonJuice]

Is the any iem that have the airness of the GR07, with the Dunu dk1000 soud signature?
Maybe a more agressive treble then those two?
Altone 200 would fit that description?

Or I'll only find it in a plus $200 iem?

 

[ljokerl]

  Joker, have you ever heard an IEM that's emphasized in the deep bass but is lean/dry (not warm) in the lower mids?

 
Interesting question. There definitely are a couple - three that come to mind are the T-Peos H-100, JVC HA-FXD80, and Dunu DN-2000. 
 

  Is the any iem that have the airness of the GR07, with the Dunu dk1000 soud signature?
Maybe a more agressive treble then those two?
Altone 200 would fit that description?

Or I'll only find it in a plus $200 iem?

 
DN-2000 would be my pick but it differs from the DN-1000 here and there. I compared them a little here: http://theheadphonelist.com/brief-review-dunu-dn-2000-fidue-a83-t-peos-altone200-sony-xba-h3-triple-driver-hybrids-compared/ . The DN-2000 is still a significantly better match for the DN-1000's signature than the Altone200.

 

[vwinter]

Joker, have you ever heard an IEM that's emphasized in the deep bass but is lean/dry (not warm) in the lower mids?

Not joker but that sounds like the Sennheiser IE800 might be worth a look.

You can also try your luck with the Zero Audio Tenore on the significantly cheaper side which might roll that way, but you never know with that one =(

 

[suman134]

Not joker but that sounds like the Sennheiser IE800 might be worth a look.

You can also try your luck with the Zero Audio Tenore on the significantly cheaper side which might roll that way, but you never know with that one =(

 
 in tenores bass is good but too little to consider it for bass at all , and sound stage is not good . re-400 has better sound stage .

 

[vwinter]

 in tenores bass is good but too little to consider it for bass at all , and sound stage is not good . re-400 has better sound stage .

The problem is the production differences in the tenores. You can get a bass heavier one like I did, with a 6-8dB subbass boost, or you can get a relatively more neutral one.

I would argue that Tenore has just ok quality bass with great extension and a fine soundstage. The imaging within the soundstage on the other hand is meh and pretty flat and so are the dynamics.

Re-400 also probably has less bass than half the tenores an definitely has no chance at a subbass emphasis, especially in comparison.

 

[suman134]

The problem is the production differences in the tenores. You can get a bass heavier one like I did, with a 6-8dB subbass boost, or you can get a relatively more neutral one.

I would argue that Tenore has just ok quality bass with great extension and a fine soundstage. The imaging within the soundstage on the other hand is meh and pretty flat and so are the dynamics.

Re-400 also probably has less bass than half the tenores

an definitely has no chance at a subbass emphasis, especially in comparison.

i dont know about the differences but my tenore is bass light , liter than er-4p , and yes , re-400 dont have much sub bass but its good with extension and sound stage is commanding too .
 it seems like zero audio has some serious production issues .
but for $50 these are good .

 

[jamor]

I hope you get to do an early review of the t10i joker.  would be interested to see if it's on par with the dunu dn-1000 or not.

 

[ljokerl]

  I hope you get to do an early review of the t10i joker.  would be interested to see if it's on par with the dunu dn-1000 or not.

 
I do have one and it's not a DN-1000 competitor. So far it's sounding very warm and bassy on all of the tunings. Not a bad thing in itself - plenty of people like warm and bassy - but that also means the MA750 is a better match for the DN-1000 than the T10i is. 

 

[Retrias]

 in tenores bass is good but too little to consider it for bass at all , and sound stage is not good . re-400 has better sound stage .

might be interested in the doppios then

 

[jamor]

   
I do have one and it's not a DN-1000 competitor. So far it's sounding very warm and bassy on all of the tunings. Not a bad thing in itself - plenty of people like warm and bassy - but that also means the MA750 is a better match for the DN-1000 than the T10i is. 

 
Oh nice!  I've had Klipsch S4s for several years now and ATH-M50s for less. The m50s are fine but Im looking to upgrade my IEM listening experience.  I was deciding on whether to get the DN-1000 now or wait for the T10i since they were the same price point and are potentially sleep-able (although this isn't important), but now it looks like they are very different.  I listen to variations of electronic (mostly this), jazz, classic rock, progressive bluegrass/jam.  I know you've said that dn-1000 aren't the best for jazz, but that is not my primary genre.  
 
What do you think I would be happier with in terms of overall sound quality?

 

[suman134]

might be interested in the doppios then

 
  i investigated into it and yes there are defective or different sounding teneros in the market and it can be that mine is defective too .

 

[blueangel2323]

I've heard one and it is Logitech UE600. 

 

Are you sure? The UE600 is rather mid-centric and very neutral in the bass.
 

 
Interesting question. There definitely are a couple - three that come to mind are the T-Peos H-100, JVC HA-FXD80, and Dunu DN-2000. 

 
Thanks, I'll look into them. Unfortunately, warm and bassy is a very common sound signature, but not otherwise neutral with deep bass emphasis.
 

Not joker but that sounds like the Sennheiser IE800 might be worth a look.

You can also try your luck with the Zero Audio Tenore on the significantly cheaper side which might roll that way, but you never know with that one =(

I did audition the IE800 and was reasonably impressed... notwithstanding the cost. The lower treble dip is a bit too pronounced though, and the rest of the treble a little too prominent in comparison, so it sounds rather off in the upper registers. Bass and mids sound excellent though.
 
If quality control on the Tenore is that bad, I wouldn't want to take the risk....

 

[ALuckyChance]

Joker, I noticed that the JVC HA-FXD80 are about $50 on Amazon at the moment. They're rated pretty high sound-wise on your review list. Are they the best in that 40-60 dollar price range in sound quality, or you do prefer others?

 

[Dynamoes1]

Hey Joker,

You ranked the RHA MA750 as an 8.9 in sound and the Shure SE215 an 8. Yet, on theheadphonelist (on the SE215's review comments), you mentioned that the MA750 can't be seen as a straight upgrade to the SE215's.

Is the difference that massive in sound?

 

[ljokerl]

  Joker, I noticed that the JVC HA-FXD80 are about $50 on Amazon at the moment. They're rated pretty high sound-wise on your review list. Are they the best in that 40-60 dollar price range in sound quality, or you do prefer others?

 
If you're asking about my personal preference, the FXD80 is not really my signature. It's too withdrawn in the lower midrange and not warm enough tonally. If I listened to more EDM type music it might be my favorite as it's really good for that, but I'd personally rather listen to a VSonic VSD3S, UE600, Ostry KC06, Sony MH1C, etc. 
 

Hey Joker,

You ranked the RHA MA750 as an 8.9 in sound and the Shure SE215 an 8. Yet, on theheadphonelist (on the SE215's review comments), you mentioned that the MA750 can't be seen as a straight upgrade to the SE215's.

Is the difference that massive in sound?

 
The sound signatures are somewhat different - the SE215 is quite smooth and not THAT bassy whereas the MA750 is more v-shaped with somewhat laid-back mids and a little more upper midrange/lower treble presence. In order to call something a straight shot from the SE215 it would have to have the same sound sig.