[Hansotek]

Excited to hear these!

 

[DGCFAD]

  Brilliant! Is the light weight still the same when more material was used?

The waveguides are part of the magnet structure and therefore don't effect the mass of the diaphragm. As to the headphones themselves, they don't feel noticeably heavier though they must be, I would guess they add less than an ounce.

 

[mrspeakers]

 
The waveguides are part of the magnet structure and therefore don't effect the mass of the diaphragm. As to the headphones themselves, they don't feel noticeably heavier though they must be, I would guess they add less than an ounce.

There is an incremental increase in weight, on the order of 15grams. 

 

[raypin]

Mmm...as an existing Ether and Ether C owner, I await more details re: This new Ether/C.

 

[mrspeakers]

Mmm...as an existing Ether and Ether C owner, I await more details re:upgrade path to the Flow! Excited. Very very excited.

Upgrade details will follow.  I do want to set the table that this is not a trivial upgrade.  It's a complete driver unit replacement and new ear cups for C or grills for ETHER.  

 

[raypin]

Mmm......estimated upgrade build time???? Do I send back through dealer or direct to you? Or is it a DIY kit? Will await more details. Tia.

 

[warrenpchi]

  Spoiler alert:  they're not muddy.  

 
LOL!  

 
 

 

 
The waveguides are part of the magnet structure and therefore don't effect the mass of the diaphragm. As to the headphones themselves, they don't feel noticeably heavier though they must be, I would guess they add less than an ounce.

There is an incremental increase in weight, on the order of 15grams. 

...which is still less than the weight of a human hand.  

 

[Odin412]

  Both the Ether Flow and Ether C Flow are big steps up from the previous iterations.  The performance for the price is unprecedented.  Dan could have charged much more for these headphones but he's actively trying to buck the trend of charging more just because he can.  All of his headphones are priced as a function of cost, not performance.  Kudos to Dan for taking a stand on that! 

This is great news! I'm looking forward to hearing these. Big thanks to the MrSpeakers team for keeping up the good work and keeping the prices within reason. (The current Ether is not cheap, but it's really good.)

 

[musicday]

Especially interested in the Ether C Flow, so everything is the same like Ether C, design, cable connections etc. apart from the added 15 gr and a different  magnet structure?
Anyway I trust Dan's ears and they sound like a real winner for closed headphones. I am not sure if the soundstage got wider, as was already quite wide for a full closed headphones, but I am sure they will have a much faster transient sound.
Planar magnetic headphones watch your backs

 

[Stillhart]

  Especially interested in the Ether C Flow, so everything is the same like Ether C, design, cable connections etc. apart from the added 15 gr and a different  magnet structure?
Anyway I trust Dan's ears and they sound like a real winner for closed headphones. I am not sure if the soundstage got wider, as was already quite wide for a full closed headphones, but I am sure they will have a much faster transient sound.
Planar magnetic headphones watch your backs

 
I believe he's changing the pattern of the carbon fiber on the Flow version so it looks different from the 1.1.

 

[mrspeakers]

Mmm......estimated upgrade build time???? Do I send back through dealer or direct to you? Or is it a DIY kit? Will await more details. Tia.

Details will be forthcoming.  I'll guesstimate the program will be announced within two weeks.  

 

[Steve Wilcox]

...which is still less than the weight of a human hand.  

 
Probably not the best comparator, unless members here have experience of lifting disconnected hands.....in which case.....I'm off......

 

[raypin]

Mmm.........thanks for the fast reply! Looking forward to upgrading my Ethers.

 

[Stillhart]

  ...which is still less than the weight of a human hand.  

 
Probably not the best comparator, unless members here have experience of lifting disconnected hands.....in which case.....I'm off......

 
This was a reference to his review of the original Ether over on guru.
 
"...So in this example, a hand weighs about 498.04 grams. At 370 grams, the ETHER is only 3/4 of the weight of that hand. This means that if we got into an argument about whether the HD 650 is veiled or not, and I were to cut off your hand in anger, and throw it at you with the same amount of force that I throw an ETHER at you, your hand would (theoretically) hurt more. That’s how light the ETHER is!"
 
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[warrenpchi]

  ...which is still less than the weight of a human hand.  

 
Probably not the best comparator, unless members here have experience of lifting disconnected hands.....in which case.....I'm off......

Lol, that's a reference to something I wrote when I reviewed the original ETHER:
 
"The ETHER is ridiculously comfortable due to its absurdly low weight and nearly non-existent clamping force. In fact, it’s just about the most comfortable circumaural headphone I’ve ever worn… with the possible exceptions of a Sennheiser HD 800 or a Denon AH-D7000.

At only 370 grams, the ETHER weighs in as one of the lightest top-of-the-line headphones I’ve ever used – and it’s definitely the lightest full-sized planar magnetic headphone I’ve ever used. Let’s take a moment to reflect on its weight (or lack thereof). 370 grams. What is that in practical terms?

The mean weight for a 40-year old white male is approximately 180 pounds, or 81,646.56 grams. The average human hand, for males, is about 0.61% of that man’s total weight. So in this example, a hand weighs about 498.04 grams. At 370 grams, the ETHER is only 3/4 of the weight of that hand. This means that if we got into an argument about whether the HD 650 is veiled or not, and I were to cut off your hand in anger, and throw it at you with the same amount of force that I throw an ETHER at you, your hand would (theoretically) hurt more. That’s how light the ETHER is!"

Original ETHER review at:  http://headphone.guru/mrspeakerss-ether-part-ii-of-ii/