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Oct 13, 2012 at 1:56 AM Post #8,266 of 48,578
The DT990 Pros tend to go for $170 on Amazon most of the time. The used 990/32 will go for a little less than $200. If you get the 32ohm, you will still need an amp, like the E11. You won't need more than that (and the Xonar DG, of course).

I prefer the DT990/32 over the 990 Pros.
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 2:22 AM Post #8,268 of 48,578
Dolby Headphone is 5.1. At least in terms of external devices like the Mixamp which state 7.1, its a lie. You can only get 5.1 from SPDIF.

I dunno how it works for soundcards, but my guess is that they'll sound the same.

The first video on the first page I posted shows the difference between 5.1 and 7.1 on Dolby Headphone. They sounded basically the same to me.
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 2:27 AM Post #8,270 of 48,578
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Yeah, like new for $196. I think I'm gonna keep the 32ohm and return the 250ohm.
Its either that or return it, sell the E17 and get an ODAC+E9K. I bought the E17 mainly for the bass/treble controls, but I don't need them with the 990s. This way I'd keep the ODAC n my comuter setup, and transport the E9K whenever I want to use them in my bedroom.
I prefer the hassle free E17+DT990/32 though.

link?!
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 2:42 AM Post #8,271 of 48,578
Amazon, search 990 32ohm, look at the used list. :p

Get them from the ones that say Amazon Warehouse deals or what have you.

The Like New may not be on there now though. May have to settle for 'Very Good'.
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 2:52 AM Post #8,272 of 48,578
That is saying a lot since you also have the D7000. I will wait for them to go on sale, anybody buy used in the past, anything I should look for?


Sorry for the double posts, but my phone has a problem with editing lasts posts today for some reason.

The D7000 is the supreme headphone for me. HOWEVER, it has pleather pads that get too hot, too fast for me. That is the ONLY reason I don't have them. This is why I only buy headphones with velour pads now. The DT990 is the closest thing I have in terms of the bass presence I want, comfort, and airiness.

The HE400 is right next to the D7000, but I wanted just a little more presence in the bass without EQ. I need to assure people that the HE400 is bassy. Give them power and its bass is amazing. I just want a tilt towards more bass. Personal preference.

Both the HE400 and D7000 smoke everything else I have heard. As far as what's next, the 990s would be it. The 990 Pros would have been next, but it has a bass that bothers my ears for some reason. The Pro 900 actually has more bass, but it doesn't hurt my ears.

I'd put the Pro 900 next to the DT990, but the Pro 900 has S-logic which makes them a pain to put on your head perfectly without altering the SQ, which the 990 and typical dynamic cans don't have. Also, the Pro 900 is closed, which lose out to the 990's open sound (more semi-open though).
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 4:47 AM Post #8,273 of 48,578
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None of these rely on amping (for the most part and especially at lower volumes), and a good soundcard would probably be like an Xonar DG or Essence ST for your needs. I'd go for those as they have Dolby Headphone, and wasn't impressed with CMSS 3D personally. YMMV.

 
YMMV indeed...did you ever try these videos on for size?
 

 

 
That's CMSS-3D Headphone at its positional best (CoD2 uses DirectSound3D IIRC, BF2 uses OpenAL, so it's getting proper 3D audio in both cases). It sounds like proper 3D binaural audio to me, not some cheap stereo upmix.
 
EDIT: I don't know why the CoD2 video broke, but that should fix it.
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 5:30 AM Post #8,274 of 48,578
Amazon, search 990 32ohm, look at the used list. :p
Get them from the ones that say Amazon Warehouse deals or what have you.
The Like New may not be on there now though. May have to settle for 'Very Good'.


Have searched alittle on amazon.co.uk for the DT 990/32 ohm, link http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyerdynamic-Premium-Stereo-Headphones-32/dp/B0024NK344/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350120028&sr=8-1
Maybe it's me, but that feels abit overpriced compared to the DT 990/250 ohm http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyerdynamic-DT990-PRO-Headset-250/dp/B0011UB9CQ/ref=pd_cp_ce_0
I save 120£ for the DT 990/250 ohm ones.
Now my question goes, can the Asus Essence STX drive the 250 ohm, or should i just get the cheap 35£ soundcard and get one of those Fiios? :).
Or just run the setup through my Denon Avr 1912?:).
Probaly gonna upgrade my reciever to some Yamaha Rx-3010, but as i can see it''s out of production so a new one will be out soon :).
Hope someone can give alittle hint here :D
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 5:33 AM Post #8,275 of 48,578
The ones I saw were off a Russian site that had comparisons between DH, CMSS, and CMSS3D. It was vids with the same scenes on all three. Only the DH one did it for me.

I'll have to wait until I'm home to see these, as youtube doesn't wanna play nice when I'm at work.
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 5:40 AM Post #8,276 of 48,578
Have searched alittle on amazon.co.uk for the DT 990/32 ohm, link http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyerdynamic-Premium-Stereo-Headphones-32/dp/B0024NK344/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350120028&sr=8-1
Maybe it's me, but that feels abit overpriced compared to the DT 990/250 ohm http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyerdynamic-DT990-PRO-Headset-250/dp/B0011UB9CQ/ref=pd_cp_ce_0
I save 120£ for the DT 990/250 ohm ones.
Now my question goes, can the Asus Essence STX drive the 250 ohm, or should i just get the cheap 35£ soundcard and get one of those Fiios? :).
Or just run the setup through my Denon Avr 1912?:).
Probaly gonna upgrade my reciever to some Yamaha Rx-3010, but as i can see it''s out of production so a new one will be out soon :).
Hope someone can give alittle hint here :D


Your STX would be perfect for the 250ohm. No extra amping needed. The Receiver should work well too. The 32ohm wouldn't match with the STX, due to having a high output impedance which would negatively affect the 32ohm.

Also, the Premium Beyers are more expensive than the Pros due to better aesthetics, and parts. They also don't clamp as hard as the Pros. The 990 Pros have noticably more bass than the Premiums. I like the bass on the Premiums more. I'd get the Premium 250ohm over the Pros, unless you're strapped for cash.
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 5:48 AM Post #8,277 of 48,578
Is the treble of the dt990 premium similar, less than or more than the Q701s?
 
Edit:  I read a bit more about the dt990 premium and have only read treble peak.  I am not a fan of treble peaks...lol so I appreciate the heads up on the cheaper pricing on the HP's but I'm gna cancel my order.  
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 6:41 AM Post #8,278 of 48,578
I've mentioned the DT990's treble over and over again. I mean all of Head-fi should know by now that the DT990 is a love it or hate it headphone. If you don't like emphasized treble, stay away from the DT990s. Its that simple.
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 7:32 AM Post #8,279 of 48,578
Been having this problem for a while and figured I'd ask.  Googled but didn't find anything similar to my situation.
 
My setup is DT990 premium 32ohms hooked up to a Mixamp 5.8 via optical cable.  Xbox 360 and PS3 are both set to output DD5.1 sound.  When I turn my Mixamp's bass boost on, the sound during certain explosions and/or many different sound effects playing at the same time (varies per game) causes the sound to loudly crackle and bother my ears.  Is there a fix for this? ot ruling it out, but I wouldn't think it would be the cables since it happens on both 360 and PS3 which each have their own optical cable.   I feel like the bass boost adds a lot but this issue can be unbearable with certain games (Sonic Adventure 2 XBLA as a recent example).  
 
Thanks.
 
Oct 13, 2012 at 7:33 AM Post #8,280 of 48,578
No, that is the Mixamp 5.8 not being able to handle the bass when the bass boost is on. Turn it off. If you want more bass than the DT990, you're crazy, or just a basshead. Should've got the DT990 pros instead, though the Mixamp alone wouldn't have been sufficient.

If you want more bass for the DT990, and external amp with bass boost (like the E7, E11, E17), will add bass without that problem.
 

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