[phobia337]

   
If you know anyone with a small child's car seat that they don't use anymore, the seatbelt cover pads work great as headphone pads for the AKG's.  I use one of my son's old ones.  Evs just got one from a baby store.  They're like $10/pair.
 
Glad you're enjoying them!  Always good to see a satisfied head-fi noob come back to share their impressions.  

This is the kind of info you find out from a vet lol!!! Wife is going to know something is up when I'm asking to go to Babies-R-Us haha.
 
Speaking of head-fi noob, how do you get FLAC music? Also what is the format a CD carries? When it comes to "quality" of music, I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

 

[LINKUZZZ]

I decided to get the Philips Fidelio X2 as my next headphone, I'm just waiting on a decent sale. I'm Canadian and headphone prices are pretty ridiculous here. Some headphones sell for almost double what they sell for in the US. Philips is generally not sold everywhere, which is why they might be selling part of their company. Right now the lowest price for the X2 is on Amazon.com US at $299 USD ($348 CND) with free shipping. Not a bad deal, but I'm sure there will be a sale as the X1 had 2 sales on Amazon.com within the past 4 weeks. Now the X1 headphone is being sold for $221 USD ($257 CAD) [26% off] on Amazon.com plus free shipping. The lowest Canadian seller is Hookbag.ca at $270 CAD, which isn't that bad, if I hadn't made up my mind to get the X2.
 
The tricky part is getting the Sound Blaster X7 on sale this early.

 

[Stillhart]

  This is the kind of info you find out from a vet lol!!! Wife is going to know something is up when I'm asking to go to Babies-R-Us haha.
 
Speaking of head-fi noob, how do you get FLAC music? Also what is the format a CD carries? When it comes to "quality" of music, I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

 
I'll send you a PM.  We're getting way off topic now.
 

  I decided to get the Philips Fidelio X2 as my next headphone, I'm just waiting on a decent sale. I'm Canadian and headphone prices are pretty ridiculous here. Some headphones sell for almost double what they sell for in the US. Philips is generally not sold everywhere, which is why they might be selling part of their company. Right now the lowest price for the X2 is on Amazon.com US at $299 USD ($348 CND) with free shipping. Not a bad deal, but I'm sure there will be a sale as the X1 had 2 sales on Amazon.com within the past 4 weeks. Now the X1 headphone is being sold for $221 USD ($257 CAD) [26% off] on Amazon.com plus free shipping. The lowest Canadian seller is Hookbag.ca at $270 CAD, which isn't that bad, if I hadn't made up my mind to get the X2.
 
The tricky part is getting the Sound Blaster X7 on sale this early.

 
Keep in mind that the X2 is pretty brand new; it's only been out for a month or two.  I think it's unlikely to see a sale price anytime soon.  Especially since it didn't see a single price cut on Black Friday.  IMO, your best bet is to keep an eye on Amazon Warehouse Deals for an open-box return.

 

[butnero]

hey guys which do u think has a best positioning akg k7xx or 612pro?
 
also does MixAmp change the way it sounds or it's somekind of 'adapter'?
 
I heard that with 612pro u should get an amp cause the sound low... any thoughts on that?

 

[Toxos]

I think i just realized something. Since I live at home, I have my pc and ps4 right next to each other, but once i move out from where I am currently, the pc and ps4 may not be as close to each other as they are now (possibly across the room or even in a different room). So now that I have thought about that, I want to ask if it would be better to just buy something like the creative ZxR or an Asus essence STX II or something of the sort so that I can still get surround sound for pc once they are split. 
 
I am still kinda considering the x7 but I am worried that for $400 it may not be worth it JUST for the ps4 in the long run. Ideas?
 
Since phobia337 thought about getting a pc soundcard and running to ps4 that way via toslink, I feel that may just work until I move out.

 

[butnero]

Does this x7 work with ps4/xbox one/pc?

 

[Toxos]

  Does this x7 work with ps4/xbox one/pc?

According to Creative, yes.

 

[cdsa35000]

^^^If you moved out, you might to consider for a real 5.1/7.1 loudspeakers setup like:
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V375-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B00B981F38
They can do HDMI Uncompressed HD Surround Audio, where else DD5.1 optical is Compressed audio.
And yamaha has silent cinema surround for headphones.

 

[Toxos]

^^^If you moved out, you might to consider for a real 5.1/7.1 loudspeakers setup like:
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V375-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B00B981F38
They can do HDMI Uncompressed HD Surround Audio, where else DD5.1 optical is Compressed audio.
And yamaha has silent cinema surround for headphones.

Hmm that looks nice. So that would be for the tv/ps4 and whatever speaker system I decide on if they part, correct? If yes, I would still need a pc solution although I did ask the computer forum for that but you are more than welcome to give suggestions 

 

[FDDreamer]

   
Why would you want to adjust the bass with EQ?  To lower it?  I've found that people on here tend to feel pretty strongly about EQ, usually they're against it.  I have no strong opinion one way or the other.  Mostly I just think that there's not much reason for it if you get the right headphone to begin with.  You'd have to talk to other folks about it.
 
The AKG's are typically considered bass-light, tho many who love them think they're just right.  The K612 supposedly has a little more bass than the K7-- series which makes for a more "fun" headphone. It's what you want if you're not too concerned about competitive gaming.  You personally probably need something that's fun but not too bassy?

 
I was thinking that if the only 'weakness' (as to many it may be a strength!) of the K701/K702/Q701 is the slightly subdued bass perhaps a quick bump to those frequencies via an equaliser might create a better sound.  But after doing more reading it appears that this is borderline heresy as would disrupt the balance of the headphone.  But you're bang-on with your summation, as I've not tried anything before it's probably safest to err on the side of 'fun' for now, and perhaps move into something more specialised (be it sound stage, bass/mid/treble emphasis etc) once I've actually discovered my preference!
 
I read an excellent review here comparing the K612 against the K702.  It appeared to be exactly as you described - the signature AKG 7-series sound but with a touch more bass and, if anything, an even better sound stage for gaming.  At the current price (~£100) it seems almost too good to be true.  Since then I've discovered that the current batch is made in China, and sadly from inferior parts to the model used in that comparison (which was made in Austria).  And that worried me a little.
 

FDDreamer, you may also want to look into the SoundMAGIC HP200, or even the HP100/150 if you want closed.

 
Strangely enough I've just ordered a pair of E10S in-ear headphones!  Didn't realise they made bigger ones, so will give these a look.  It seems they retail for around the same as the X2 though - are they in that league? 

  My AKG K612s arrived yesterday!! I was able to test them out on couple different games. First impressions, I'm really impressed with the open air. I never knew a headphone could really sound like a real surround sound speaker system. I found myself looking over my shoulder couple times thinking a sound was coming from another room but was instead in the depth of the sound stage.......really neat! 
 
The highs are really crisp and I was sonic creeping on people. I could hear people footsteps plain as day through walls that I never heard before. I felt like I was cheating at time hahaha. 
 
The bass was tight and featured plenty of low rumble for my liking. They are far from a bass heavy phone but still provided plenty of bass in my opinion. Interested to see how the Z can help in this area with a little equalizer. 
 
The mids I felt were set back and I was not happy with it at first. They were being covered up by the highs and bass, but it was not till I cranked them up that everything seem to balance out more. The mids are still my least impressed area of the phone, but I'm hoping some burn in and amping will correct this.
 
Now the big factor......comfort..........WOW. No joke, these are the most comfortable pair of cans I've owned/wore and now see why MLE complains about Sennheiser clamp force. I came from the HD 280 Pros to these, its like going from a pleather vice, to two gentle pillows pressing on the sides of my head. While they are super light, I did get a slight discomfort after couple hours from the leather headband. I'm thinking a wool wrap like they sell for the Beyerdynamics would help give it just a touch of padding. 
 
Overall in my short time (6pm to midnight) I feel like I made the right decision to go with the AKG 612s. They appear to be everything I was after. 

 
Do you mind me asking where you got the K612 from?  I'm super-interested in your experience as I'm in a very similar position as yourself and have narrowed my choice down to either the K612, Fidelio X2 or possibly the HP200.  Seems like the X2 is the more well-rounded set, however it's literally twice the price of the K612!  And I think Stillhart made a very good point about the chances of the X2 dropping in price being relatively slim. 

 

[Change is Good]

I chose to keep my HP200 and return the X2 because it was better for my gaming purposes. It had more air and separation, along with a wider soundstage. The HP200 is actually a lot like the K612, so whichever is cheaper will be your better choice.

 

[benbenkr]

  I think i just realized something. Since I live at home, I have my pc and ps4 right next to each other, but once i move out from where I am currently, the pc and ps4 may not be as close to each other as they are now (possibly across the room or even in a different room). So now that I have thought about that, I want to ask if it would be better to just buy something like the creative ZxR or an Asus essence STX II or something of the sort so that I can still get surround sound for pc once they are split. 
 
I am still kinda considering the x7 but I am worried that for $400 it may not be worth it JUST for the ps4 in the long run. Ideas?
 
Since phobia337 thought about getting a pc soundcard and running to ps4 that way via toslink, I feel that may just work until I move out.

 
I personally think that $400 just for the PS4 is quite a waste. The X7 is amazing, that much is definite. But $400 worth of amazingness? Nope.
 
 

^^^If you moved out, you might to consider for a real 5.1/7.1 loudspeakers setup like:
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V375-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B00B981F38
They can do HDMI Uncompressed HD Surround Audio, where else DD5.1 optical is Compressed audio.
And yamaha has silent cinema surround for headphones.

 
 

  Hmm that looks nice. So that would be for the tv/ps4 and whatever speaker system I decide on if they part, correct? If yes, I would still need a pc solution although I did ask the computer forum for that but you are more than welcome to give suggestions 

 
Except, receivers are notorious for adding huge amount of input lag and Yamaha was (and still is) some of the biggest culprits.

 

[Toxos]

   
I personally think that $400 just for the PS4 is quite a waste. The X7 is amazing, that much is definite. But $400 worth of amazingness? Nope.
 
 
 
 
 
Except, receivers are notorious for adding huge amount of input lag and Yamaha was (and still is) some of the biggest culprits.

 
So X7 would be great if I could use for pc and ps4. So it would be worth it for now but not the future if they are no longer close to each other. What should I do then? I only need one solution for both things for a few more months and then I will give them each their own solution.

 

[phobia337]

   
I was thinking that if the only 'weakness' (as to many it may be a strength!) of the K701/K702/Q701 is the slightly subdued bass perhaps a quick bump to those frequencies via an equaliser might create a better sound.  But after doing more reading it appears that this is borderline heresy as would disrupt the balance of the headphone.  But you're bang-on with your summation, as I've not tried anything before it's probably safest to err on the side of 'fun' for now, and perhaps move into something more specialised (be it sound stage, bass/mid/treble emphasis etc) once I've actually discovered my preference!
 
I read an excellent review here comparing the K612 against the K702.  It appeared to be exactly as you described - the signature AKG 7-series sound but with a touch more bass and, if anything, an even better sound stage for gaming.  At the current price (~£100) it seems almost too good to be true.  Since then I've discovered that the current batch is made in China, and sadly from inferior parts to the model used in that comparison (which was made in Austria).  And that worried me a little.
 
 
Strangely enough I've just ordered a pair of E10S in-ear headphones!  Didn't realise they made bigger ones, so will give these a look.  It seems they retail for around the same as the X2 though - are they in that league? 
 
Do you mind me asking where you got the K612 from?  I'm super-interested in your experience as I'm in a very similar position as yourself and have narrowed my choice down to either the K612, Fidelio X2 or possibly the HP200.  Seems like the X2 is the more well-rounded set, however it's literally twice the price of the K612!  And I think Stillhart made a very good point about the chances of the X2 dropping in price being relatively slim. 

I scored them on Ebay for $119 brand new. I lucked out to be honest.

 

[Stillhart]

@FDDreamer, You're perfectly entitled to your opinion on Chinese vs Austrian AKG's.  However, I have a Chinese Q701 and I've never had any issues with it.  I haven't met anyone in the Q701 thread who believes there is any material difference between versions.  They've been proven to sound identical as well.  
 
What I'm trying to say is that there really isn't any logical grounds to worry about inferior quality when it comes to Chinese vs Austrian AKG's.  If it bothers you anyways, by all means, get something else.  But I wanted to make sure you're aware that there's not really any reason to worry about it.