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Feb 26, 2024 at 1:07 PM Post #976 of 1,187
I would love to know where the latest Big7 MK3 with Engine Eleven sits in this chart.
From “the chart” I would think the latest B73 would sit at the level of the original Pacific.
 
Feb 26, 2024 at 8:21 PM Post #978 of 1,187
Thank you for this…. It’s so confusing to know what is considered “better”…
Also remember that is Lampizator marketing. The Amber 3 is a great DAC, and although I'm sure the Horizon is the better DAC, is it really going to be 400% better? :)
 
Feb 26, 2024 at 8:59 PM Post #979 of 1,187
is it really going to be 400% better?
I’ve never really understood the whole X% better comparison.
what does 20% or 400% a better mean, it’s an interesting chart, but outside expressing a preference it’s not meaningful.
FWIW I owned an Amber 3 at one point, it’s among my favorite DAC’s at it’s price point, the Pacific and Horizon are at a totally different level, it isn’t close IMO, it’s just hard to make comparisons, they just sound better.
 
Feb 26, 2024 at 9:33 PM Post #980 of 1,187
I get your point but...

Lukasz designed all these DAC's. This is his personal overall sonic assessment, this is not his personal preference listing. Customers want to know what they are getting by paying x amount more money (better sound staging, more details, better tonal quality, better bass, more realism, etc.), and Lukasz is attempting to provide info to his potential customers so they can make better informed decisions.

We all make value judgments when comparing gear- this one has better bass, this one has improved clarity, etc. That is the reason why many people frequent this site, trying to gather intel, impressions from other users, to help them make buying decisions.

Is the chart perfect, no, but I don't see anything wrong with it. This is better than him saying nothing.

Ideally, we'd all have local audio store lending libraries, you go down, borrow gear, take it home and listen in your own system and come to your own conclusions. Alas, that is not reality.
 
Feb 26, 2024 at 9:43 PM Post #981 of 1,187
This chart may be a bit more helpful... or not.


Lampi Comp Chart 2.jpg
 
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Feb 26, 2024 at 10:42 PM Post #983 of 1,187
This chart may be a bit more helpful... or not.


I don’t think this sheet gets updated as frequently as the other- at least with regards to the details of recent “engine” updates. What would be awesome would be some kind of spectral plot taken individually from each dac while producing the same content through the same system. If that were possible one could see the measured differences in the output of each.
 
Feb 27, 2024 at 5:20 PM Post #985 of 1,187
I’ve never really understood the whole X% better comparison.
what does 20% or 400% a better mean, it’s an interesting chart, but outside expressing a preference it’s not meaningful.
FWIW I owned an Amber 3 at one point, it’s among my favorite DAC’s at it’s price point, the Pacific and Horizon are at a totally different level, it isn’t close IMO, it’s just hard to make comparisons, they just sound better.
With the speed of how Lampizator releases new and updated DACs I might even be able to afford the Pacific one day. When I purchased the GA TRP2, the Pacific price was far far out of reach. It's still out of reach, but within a couple of years it might be possible. And then my original balanced GA will be almost worthless :)

My VPI Prime Signature turntable was about the same price as my original GA....
 
Feb 27, 2024 at 7:15 PM Post #986 of 1,187
With the speed of how Lampizator releases new and updated DACs I might even be able to afford the Pacific one day. When I purchased the GA TRP2, the Pacific price was far far out of reach. It's still out of reach, but within a couple of years it might be possible. And then my original balanced GA will be almost worthless :)

My VPI Prime Signature turntable was about the same price as my original GA....
Have you considered upgrading one to the new engine 11 setup?
 
Feb 27, 2024 at 8:05 PM Post #987 of 1,187
Have you considered upgrading one to the new engine 11 setup?
I would with my original GA, but they are not allowing the upgrade anymore for products more than 4 years old. And I'm not sure I want to mess with the sound of my GA TRP2 it sounds that good.
 
Feb 27, 2024 at 9:36 PM Post #988 of 1,187
I would with my original GA, but they are not allowing the upgrade anymore for products more than 4 years old. And I'm not sure I want to mess with the sound of my GA TRP2 it sounds that good.
Did you ever try the 6J5’s in your TRP? You don’t know what you’re missing!
 
Feb 28, 2024 at 12:37 AM Post #989 of 1,187
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Feb 28, 2024 at 8:26 AM Post #990 of 1,187
With the speed of how Lampizator releases new and updated DACs I might even be able to afford the Pacific one day. When I purchased the GA TRP2, the Pacific price was far far out of reach. It's still out of reach, but within a couple of years it might be possible. And then my original balanced GA will be almost worthless :)

My VPI Prime Signature turntable was about the same price as my original GA....

This to me also represents risks/downside. I wouldn't consider one new, as they don't seem to hold their value well. And that worsens as you customize. That then really limits availability (at least for me), to the used market. I'm still very much interested in a lampi and will pull the trigger in the near future if I see the right unit used, however.
 

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