La Figaro 339
Aug 20, 2016 at 9:15 AM Post #3,631 of 6,909
@Liu Junyuan, looks like my 5998s are in Montreal so they should be delivered Monday. I know these aren't an exotic tube, but I have a set of JAN Phillip's 6080WC in the 339 now and they seem pretty nice. Has anybody else by chance tried these tubes and what did you think of them? They seem to be lighter in the bass than either my RCA or Mullard 6080.
 
Aug 20, 2016 at 9:38 AM Post #3,632 of 6,909
  @Liu Junyuan, looks like my 5998s are in Montreal so they should be delivered Monday. I know these aren't an exotic tube, but I have a set of JAN Phillip's 6080WC in the 339 now and they seem pretty nice. Has anybody else by chance tried these tubes and what did you think of them? They seem to be lighter in the bass than either my RCA or Mullard 6080.

 
I do have some Thomson 6080wa with copper rods, they're cheap and sound really good. The RCa and Mullard are known for the way they portray bass, so that could very well be.
 
Aug 20, 2016 at 10:40 AM Post #3,633 of 6,909
   
I do have some Thomson 6080wa with copper rods, they're cheap and sound really good. The RCa and Mullard are known for the way they portray bass, so that could very well be.

Yes, stupidly good value for the money. Good to know I wasn't just hearing things, the bass impact is certainly lower, adequate and clean, but being a bass head I can see the RCA/Mullards and soon to arrive Chatham 2339s being used more.
 
Aug 20, 2016 at 10:46 AM Post #3,634 of 6,909
  Yes, stupidly good value for the money. Good to know I wasn't just hearing things, the bass impact is certainly lower, adequate and clean, but being a bass head I can see the RCA/Mullards and soon to arrive Chatham 2339s being used more.

 
I prefer the RCA/Chatham 6AS7G/6520 (bass) over the 2339/5998 Chatham/TS in my OTLs.
I just unpacked two NOS pair of black plate 6AS7G labeled Sylvania, I should stop buying tubes 
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Aug 20, 2016 at 10:51 AM Post #3,635 of 6,909
   
I prefer the RCA/Chatham 6AS7G/6520 (bass) over the 2339/5998 Chatham/TS in my OTLs.
I just unpacked two NOS pair of black plate 6AS7G labeled Sylvania, I should stop buying tubes 
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Apparently my local source has plenty of black plate tubes, and he mentioned Sylvania. Are these worth looking into? If so, what is a reasonable price for a matched pair in your experience?
 
Aug 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM Post #3,636 of 6,909
Here is the nice RCAs with original, and double boxing.
 

 
Aug 20, 2016 at 5:19 PM Post #3,637 of 6,909
  Yes, stupidly good value for the money. Good to know I wasn't just hearing things, the bass impact is certainly lower, adequate and clean, but being a bass head I can see the RCA/Mullards and soon to arrive Chatham 2339s being used more.

Yes the 6080WC have good bass, you can hear the click of pedal hitting kick drum. I have the GE 6080WC, though one of them arced and died on me.
 
Aug 21, 2016 at 9:57 PM Post #3,638 of 6,909
  Yes the 6080WC have good bass, you can hear the click of pedal hitting kick drum. I have the GE 6080WC, though one of them arced and died on me.

I still have a lot to learn with the equivalents, but is it safe to assume that my version is unable to use the RCA Red 5693 tubes?
 
Aug 22, 2016 at 1:43 AM Post #3,639 of 6,909
  I still have a lot to learn with the equivalents, but is it safe to assume that my version is unable to use the RCA Red 5693 tubes?

Yes, I do not think you can with your version. However, there are better tubes IMO even for my version than those. So perhaps just look at it as you are not missing out too badly. My issue with them is that severely compromise the holographic, three dimensional staging that I get with glass tubes. It is more like you are introducing a solid state characteristic into the amp, which can be slightly grainy and harsh depending on what you are listening to. I think they are good tubes, but they are not my personal favorite in this amp. YMMV of course.
 
Aug 22, 2016 at 8:10 AM Post #3,640 of 6,909
   
Here's the story on the Mullard EF80: http://www.r-type.org/articles/art-019.htm
You can find these reasonably easy but make sure you get the mesh version. I can't seem to find a pic of mine but I have these with the new logo
 

 
Why you've never picked up an EF86 adapter is beyond me.  My EF80's have collected dust ever since.  
 
Aug 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Post #3,642 of 6,909
I have on several occasions in this thread read about EF86 tubes so a few quick questions. I assume the adapter is ordered directly from the manufacturer? Is there a good site that lists the various tube numbers that fall under a category such as EF86? I am going to Google EF8s equivalents and see what I find.
 
Aug 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Post #3,643 of 6,909
  Yes, I do not think you can with your version. However, there are better tubes IMO even for my version than those. So perhaps just look at it as you are not missing out too badly. My issue with them is that severely compromise the holographic, three dimensional staging that I get with glass tubes. It is more like you are introducing a solid state characteristic into the amp, which can be slightly grainy and harsh depending on what you are listening to. I think they are good tubes, but they are not my personal favorite in this amp. YMMV of course.

Thank you, appreciate your thoughts as always. Your lovely tubes should arrive today so I will have an opportunity to listen to them tonight.
 
Aug 23, 2016 at 3:06 AM Post #3,644 of 6,909
  Thank you, appreciate your thoughts as always. Your lovely tubes should arrive today so I will have an opportunity to listen to them tonight.

Great. Please remember to be careful with the volume, as the Chatham 2399/Tungsol 5998 push very high gain relative to other tubes (which may work to your liking since you like to listen loudly). The dynamics from those tubes are only approachable by the 7236.
 

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