Astrozombie
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I have modded my HTF600s and I don't think they can compare to the DJ100s right now
Wow wow wow! You mean to tell me these are better than my Favorite Headphones?!?
I have modded my HTF600s and I don't think they can compare to the DJ100s right now
I'm building my JDS with a gain of 6, do you think that'll be too much and I should move to a gain of 4?
Fiio E9 + E7 is definitely a no go for the DJ100 so far. DJ100 and the E9 by itself is fine. With the E7 used as a DAC the sound is painfully bright and fatiguing. Not sure why since both are supposed to be quite neutral. I even removed all mods just to be safe. Maybe just bad synergy or something. With my Nuforce Icon Mobile DAC the sound is fine.
One thing I noticed is that the sound on the E9 with the E7 connected has cut out twice in the left channel and it's not the headphone or cable. I had to remove the E7 and reconnect it.
I even tried a different USB cable! The DJ100 is almost never ever fatiguing for me. Certainly not the upper mids or treble. It usually gives my ears a bit when someone is singing really loud.
Maybe I'll use the E7 DAC part to my micro amp and see if it's as bad or better. I always felt the E9 was a fairly bright sounding amp, so maybe both is like a double whammy or something. Who knows.
My guess is that all this is overkill for the DJ100. Never figured it'd be this bad though. Guess I'll try the E7 as just an amp and see if the result is similar.
I wonder how the set you're sending me will sound on my system... It's very overkill for it for sure. I'll probably balance them if I decide to keep them and it bet the bass will become even tighter then.
Wow wow wow! You mean to tell me these are better than my Favorite Headphones?!?Well now i must try them!
Results may vary!
The DJ100 has lots of upper mids and the Panny has lots of lower mids, they sound really different.
Anyone compare these to the Superlux? Say...HD660?
Got the DJ100's in today but am unsure if I like them more with the M50 pads or stock pads. I'm a bit more partial to the stock pads in all honesty but the bass with the M50 pads it tighter and there's a bit more clarity. I'll have to do more listening and then get back to you guys.
Anyways Dockweiler I think I'll take em from ya. Koss surely has made a nice smash hit here.
Got the DJ100's in today but am unsure if I like them more with the M50 pads or stock pads. I'm a bit more partial to the stock pads in all honesty but the bass with the M50 pads it tighter and there's a bit more clarity. I'll have to do more listening and then get back to you guys.
Anyways Dockweiler I think I'll take em from ya. Koss surely has made a nice smash hit here.
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With the stock pads they sound the exact same. I am very tempted to open them up and to disconnect the stereo/mono switch and even recable them to balanced. I bet the bass is much tighter when balanced.
Also their sonic signature doesn't seem to change on any of my amps, in fact they sound pretty nice on my Musical Fidelity X-CANV8P and really good on my Audio-GD ROC. But I think an amp for them might be overkill as they really don't need it. There isn't much difference when amped and not amped IMO but I always amp because I do want maximum performance from all my gear.
I tried V6 pads on them and it didn't sound to far off from the M50 pads. The main difference is that the bass has decreased and the treble becomes more forward and the mids loose some body. I want mids!
Anyways I'll probably mod them with Dynamat Extreme and some felt and acoustic stuffing. I won't do this yet because I need to pay you for them!
I think the main problem is that a lot of these smaller portable players can't drive them very well. With the Ipod Classic, 5G and the Ipod Touch they might be OK. On my Cowon Iaudio 7 (which is super small) they sound horrible and there is not enough volume. Sansa View is a little better. Not enough volume but doesn't sound as bad. I think it really depends on the portable device. So even an E6 or E5 would help.
I think one reason I always suggest amping is that too many people try these with such tiny portables and then wonder about the lack of bass. It'd be interested to see how they sound out of an Ipod Nano or my new Sansa Fuze without an amp.
It seems the biggest difference between amps for me is the mids being more forward or less forward. On the E5 it is a lot brighter it seems like. On the E11 the DJ100 is boring as heck. That's not how it normally is. The E7 was a little better. I think very warm sounding amps might hurt the sound and maybe that's why the E11 was a poor match. It seems like with these it's just best to have good amp synergy.
Maybe both of your amps are very very neutral? People keep saying this about all the portable amps I try and they always never are. Not even the E7 seemed to be.
I need to buy the PA2V2. I bet it may be a perfect match for the DJ100 and it's fairly cheap.
Feel free to do whatever you want to them! With the DJ100 just be careful to not overdo the mods. I've found it can easily screw up the sound. Best to start small. Maybe the more air inside the cups the better they sound. It's just a bit hard to figure out. In one of my other threads I've posted my results with various mods. It's possible to get these to sound very very bass heavy and also to make the mids so forward they're extremely fatiguing!
It seems like too much dampening material behind the driver and the mids are too forward. That's why I found out that the area behind the driver changes effects the sound the most. Anything on the back of the driver itself seems to kill the sound.
A small circle of Dynamat inside the cup seemed to work well enough for me.
I'd be very interested to see how they sound when recabled/balanced.
I actually suggest drilling holes in the shell for recables. The mono/stereo switch is a pain to remove and then you still need to cut off a section of plastic inside the cups to get a cable in there. With holes you can skip doing all that.
The stock wires in the cup are super thin. I killed my first DJ100 by sealing the cup and slicing a wire in half. It somehow blew the driver.