Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Feb 1, 2018 at 2:08 PM Post #27,736 of 66,005
Am I the only one who would like an upgraded ATR with removable cable and better build?


To answer your question, you're not the only one, but once I get my ES3 replacements I'll compare the ATR to the ES3 and let you know if the ES3 is precisely what you're asking for (upgraded ATR with removable cable and better build). I'm kind of going from memory at this point since my backup ATR is dead on one side and my ES3 needs replacing as well. Stay tuned and I'll get back to you.

BTW, to anyone else in the community who has both the ATR and the ES3, please chime in.

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Feb 1, 2018 at 2:40 PM Post #27,737 of 66,005
THX @trumpethead , got to thinking about it and I'd be remiss if I did not mention Mike Oldfield as well:beerchug: He's another genius behind the keyboards:thumbsup:YMMV:thinking:
I have the original pressing of Kraftwerk on my 10-foot-a-LPs stash but will have to say I like Mike Oldfield more. I'm still buying his occasional new releases. Loved Return to Ommadawn from last year, perhaps it was the year before now that we're in 2018. Have everything in between too. Of course I loved pre breakup Tangerine Dream and some of the more recent things. And all the Froese solo stuff
 
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Feb 1, 2018 at 3:02 PM Post #27,738 of 66,005
I have the original pressing of Kraftwerk on my 10-foot-a-LPs stash but will have to say I like Mike Oldfield more. I'm still buying his occasional new releases. Loved Return to Ommadawn from last year, perhaps it was the year before now that we're in 2018. Have everything in between too. Of course I loved pre breakup Tangerine Dream and some of the more recent things. And all the Froese solo stuff

You betcha @bsoplinger , Ommadawn, Discovery, TB I/II & III, Incantations, never got Tubular Beats from 2013-14? but I have a copy of The 1984 Suite which has "The Killing Fields" on it
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 3:09 PM Post #27,739 of 66,005
Zsr review is finally up here.

that week with the flu really put a dent in my listening time.
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 3:16 PM Post #27,740 of 66,005
So guys, I have to say, after putting in some significant listening time using the foam tips, my opinion of the ZS6 has changed tremendously! The foam really tames the hot treble down nicely, the bass shines, and they just sound amazing for their price. I actually prefer them to my Periodic Audio Be's for a lot of tracks, and that's a price differential of 6x. Very happy with my purchase now. Woo!
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 3:28 PM Post #27,741 of 66,005
Indeed @MyPants , one of the main reasons I don't even attempt reviews much less technical is because first off I don't have the tools to do it right so I defer to "Brooko" on that one and secondly at my age if I try to go back and fourth I'd be afraid I'd forget what the original even was:open_mouth: Video is even worse, I remember the colorization push/era and for me most are so unnatural to the original black and white which believe it or not I still prefer. Wife was laughing at me watching McHale's Navy this morning and my 16 year old goes dad that picture is horrible:scream: Can't wait till they get old and remember what their "Old Skool" was:beerchug:

@razorpakk , always wanted the AT series to have removable cable myself Sir:wink: They sure deserved one:thumbsup:

+1 on Hales Navy, Sqt Bilko was pretty good also. Oh, the days of innocence.
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 3:45 PM Post #27,743 of 66,005
Yeah @DocHoliday , I'm quite sure you and I could go on and on until I have hand cramps! LOL Fortunately for me my time was recovery time, went in March of '76 and they pulled the last of our boys out of Saigon Dec. '75. A lot of great guys gave their lives for a politically motivated war and we (speaking ground forces) were at a total disadvantage in Charlie's Playground. Appreciate your sentiments though :thumbsup:Partied with a lot of guys recovering at Landstuhl 2nd General Army Hospital, some could not dance but they sure could put back a few Bitburger's and Jagers:wink: Bringing back some good memories of big Wiener Schnitzel's hanging off both sides of my plate with German fried potatoes and red cabbage (excuse me while I wipe tis drool off my keyboard):scream:

Think I ended up giving my boys or at least donating my ATE's to my kids video shelf after getting my ATR's (yours are also very sweet, usually don't like ear guides but those white ones look sweet on the ATR's) which I consider the final rendition of a great series. I may be able to find them and A-B with the Nobles but for I can with my ATR's. Try to get around to that sometime in the near future between Science Project, Basketball and Soccer!

Yeah, only thing worse than beer goggles can be the next morning if you know what I mean :rolling_eyes: So I'm also a fan of New Order, got all of Icehouse and my youngest boy absolutely loves my 12" EP of Tainted Love! You know I loved those ED11's the minute I opened the package and immediately jumped back on ALiEx and ordered my second pair:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

So let's do hope when my Gearbest Pewter ZS6's get here that they truly are a II's edition, of course I won't cry either way because I just love my black and red ones (maybe not as much as Lord Rex)! But they are one heck of an iem for $40.

Cheers
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 3:48 PM Post #27,744 of 66,005
Whilst we're on the Subject for suggestions for KZ - I'm thinking the white and gold lick could be Ceramcoated and Gold Titanium hardware. that would be all class... and mill out the the Grille into that Conjoined "kz" logo. Epic Gucci 'ish
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 3:52 PM Post #27,745 of 66,005
hate to be the fun police but has anyone considered the the Poster information was updated instead of the IEM itself ? not trying to ruin the fun, I just want to explore the possibilities before we all get our Underwear in double knots (without even taking our pants off).
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 4:07 PM Post #27,746 of 66,005
@Podster That Bike is Rad. V.cool

THX @Drumkrunk , here's the family stable, everyone else in the house ride 24 cruisers as well as the guest red Diamondback:wink:

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Really taking me back @mrmoto050 , earliest shows I remember watching were Real McCoy's, Gunsmoke, My Favorite Martian, Bonanza, Twilight Zone, Dragnet, Rawhide, The Beaver, Have Gun, Lassie, Wagon Train but I loved the 60's shows like Hogan's, I-Spy, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea:grinning:
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 4:17 PM Post #27,747 of 66,005
THX @Drumkrunk , here's the family stable, everyone else in the house ride 24 cruisers as well as the guest red Diamondback:wink:



Really taking me back @mrmoto050 , earliest shows I remember watching were Real McCoy's, Gunsmoke, My Favorite Martian, Bonanza, Twilight Zone, Dragnet, Rawhide, The Beaver, Have Gun, Lassie, Wagon Train but I loved the 60's shows like Hogan's, I-Spy, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea:grinning:
Yep, Standard TV fare of the day. Nice bikes BTW. I'm a mountain biker, never did BMX.
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 4:39 PM Post #27,748 of 66,005
Zsr review is finally up here.

that week with the flu really put a dent in my listening time.
Dying here too, all I seem to be able to do is listen to movie soundtracks.... Alien: Covenant, Passengers, Logan and some ambient stuff
 
Feb 1, 2018 at 4:47 PM Post #27,749 of 66,005
hate to be the fun police but has anyone considered the the Poster information was updated instead of the IEM itself ? not trying to ruin the fun, I just want to explore the possibilities before we all get our Underwear in double knots (without even taking our pants off).


******* A L E R T *******

Looks like KZ has silently modified the ZS6.
Pay close attention.

The first image is an image from three months ago. Note that the first image shows TWO of the same exact BA (30095).


The second image is also from several months ago. Note the "high pitched" balanced armature X2 in the photo. Same BA receivers.


Now look at the third and most recent image. One midrange BA and one treble BA.


Note that it is the same for the ZSR (1 midrange BA and 1 Treble BA).


Just thought everyone should be aware that "what once was" is no more. When I get my new Pewter ZS6 I'll update the difference between my ZS6(i) and then new ZS6(ii).

I also think it's cool and interesting that KZ tuned the 6mm micro-driver for the sub-bass. This explains why the sub-bass is so quick and tight on the ZS6.

No harm in considering that possibility, but given KZ's history

[ATE(i), ATE(ii), ATE(iii), ATE(iv), ATE(v), ZS1(i), ZS1(ii), ZS5(i) & ZS5 (ii)]

and given the disparity in their own posted images (included above) I think I'll stick to my guns on this one. I don't think they would go through the trouble of issuing and posting new images if something wasn't afoot. Not to mention that someone posted that their new ZS6 claimed more bass and the OP could hear the difference compared to their original ZS6.

At any rate, if KZ has given a ZS6(ii) more bass and replaced one of the ultra-high frequency BAs with a midrange BA then the added bass will likely force some of those abundant highs found in the ZS6(i) into submission. I'll also venture a guess that a ZS6(ii) bass will not be as clean and tight as the ZS6(i). We'll just have to wait and see.

OK, Pod and fellow 80's synth-pop lovers, here is one more absolute classic.
Pull out your favorite warm KZ (really, make sure their warm KZ's) and hit play.



You can really hear "Jellybean" Benitez' handiwork in this mix. Same goes for Jon Robie.

Speaking of John Robie:
 
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