Kiwi Ears IEM Thread
Apr 25, 2024 at 8:32 PM Post #16 of 27
I have gone down the budget rabbit hole with IEMs (Zero, Zero 2, Wan'er, EW200, Cadenza) and the Cadenzas have my favorite sound signature I believe. I'm happy with them for now, but when I do decide to upgrade, what would be a general across the board improvement from those? I listen to mostly rock/metal, indie, and some pop.
7th Acoustic Supernova might be a candidate. You can also look at AuR Audio Aurora
 
Apr 26, 2024 at 4:09 AM Post #17 of 27
I have gone down the budget rabbit hole with IEMs (Zero, Zero 2, Wan'er, EW200, Cadenza) and the Cadenzas have my favorite sound signature I believe. I'm happy with them for now, but when I do decide to upgrade, what would be a general across the board improvement from those? I listen to mostly rock/metal, indie, and some pop.

Quintet or EA1000 comes to mind
 
Apr 26, 2024 at 12:29 PM Post #18 of 27
I have gone down the budget rabbit hole with IEMs (Zero, Zero 2, Wan'er, EW200, Cadenza) and the Cadenzas have my favorite sound signature I believe. I'm happy with them for now, but when I do decide to upgrade, what would be a general across the board improvement from those? I listen to mostly rock/metal, indie, and some pop.

Provided you'd like to stick with the same bass profile with minor deviations in the ear gain compensation area (how close/in your face and head the vocals and upper mids are, or, in other words, when it's time to choose, how much you need the vocals to be the centerpiece of your music) accepted, then I'd suggest looking into:

Dunu Falcon Ultra
Xenns Up

If you'd like to have something with a cleaner but still powerful bass and you're fine with a bit more relaxed/distant vocals and upper mids, then depending on your tolerance of brightness and treble in general, these are worthy of consideration:

ZiiGaat Doscinco
Yanyin Canon II
Xenns Top
Monarch Mk III

I don't know how much you could spend in the future, but if you go for something between 200-400 (Falcon Ultra, Doscinco, Canon II), but then still would like to experience more, then as a general advice, I'd suggest you skip the Top or the Up (unless you need the exact tuning), and go for the Monarch Mk III, because it's better than those, and by then, not so far off in price... but financial responsibility is even better, so don't go into debt, it's not worth it.

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May 13, 2024 at 12:03 AM Post #20 of 27
I have a bunch of Kiwi Ears sets. I figured I could provide quick thoughts on the lot of them!

Dolce: Nice little 20$ set! Comfortable lovely shell but a terrible cable. Pleasant tuning but a muffled congested sound. Not surprising for the price.

Cadenza: Highly praised for good reason. Beautifully tuned. Spacious sound. Impactful bass, clear mids, bright detailed highs. If the separation was better these would be insanely good.

Forteza: Gorgeous shells. An awful harsh shouty mess of sound. Strong dynamic bass, and everything above that sounds unpleasant.

Singolo: The bass shelf from the resonator is interesting, but people are right that the fit is wonky. Pleasant but boring. Awful cable for the price.

Melody: Awesome bass, dipped mids, detailed but slightly zingy highs. Took me a while to find the right tips, but finally found a solid fit. My NiceHck F1 Pro has become my more used planar set, but I still break these out when I want something ultra warm.

Orchestra Lite: I ended up returning these but I had them for a few weeks. I think they sound fabulous. Detail for days and incredible isolation. Incredible for games. I only sent them back because they reminded me of my MagicOnes quite a bit. They've made me want a nice multi-BA at some point.

Quintets: God I love them so much. Razor sharp imaging, thumping bass, clear as a bell mids, beautifully extended and lively highs. I still use them all the time even though I bought a set of Monarch MK3s to basically fill in the few gaps that these have. SO good for games as well.

Happy to answer questions about any of these!
 
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May 13, 2024 at 5:20 AM Post #21 of 27
I have a bunch of Kiwi Ears sets. I figured I could provide quick thoughts on the lot of them!

Dolce: Nice little 20$ set! Comfortable lovely shell but a terrible cable. Pleasant tuning but a muffled congested sound. Not surprising for the price.

Cadenza: Highly praised for good reason. Beautifully tuned. Spacious sound. Impactful bass, clear mids, bright detailed highs. If the separation was better these would be insanely good.

Forteza: Gorgeous shells. An awful harsh shouty mess of sound. Strong dynamic bass, and everything above that sounds unpleasant.

Singolo: The bass shelf from the resonator is interesting, but people are right that the fit is wonky. Pleasant but boring. Awful cable for the price.

Melody: Awesome bass, dipped mids, detailed but slightly zingy highs. Took me a while to find the right tips, but finally found a solid fit. My NiceHck F1 Pro has become my more used planar set, but I still break these out when I want something ultra warm.

Orchestra Lite: I ended up returning these but I had them for a few weeks. I think they sound fabulous. Detail for days and incredible isolation. Incredible got games. I only sent them back because they reminded me of my MagicOnes quite a bit. They've made me want a nice multi-BA at some point.

Quintets: God I love them so much. Razor sharp imaging, thumping bass, clear as a bell mids, beautifully extended and lively highs. I still use them all the time even though I bought a set of Monarch MK3s to basically fill in the few gaps that these have. SO good for games as well.

Happy to answer questions about any of these!

Nice write up, thanks for sharing. The Cadenza, Orchestra Lite and Quintet seems to be the top 3 and I agree, all are fabulous.

The Quartet is pretty good too, I might add. The tuning switches are actually very well implemented
 
May 21, 2024 at 9:31 AM Post #22 of 27
Nice write up, thanks for sharing. The Cadenza, Orchestra Lite and Quintet seems to be the top 3 and I agree, all are fabulous.

The Quartet is pretty good too, I might add. The tuning switches are actually very well implemente
Quartet is one of the few I haven't tried(along with the OG Orchestra). It's nice to hear the tuning switches feel worth it. I tend to be distrustful of those haha
 
May 25, 2024 at 2:28 PM Post #23 of 27
I have gone down the budget rabbit hole with IEMs (Zero, Zero 2, Wan'er, EW200, Cadenza)
Do you still have the EW200? If so, then you can install 300 density mesh filters from the Simgot EW200 tuning kit in order to tame the bright upper midrange and treble. The self-adhesive mesh filters are installed directly on top of the metal dust filters inside the EW200 nozzles. With this modification, and perhaps also switching to different eartips in order to tweak the amount of sub bass that you want, then the EW200 will clearly outperform the Cadenza in terms of better resolution in the bass and in the midrange, and with a bit cleaner resolution in the upper midrange. The result is tighter bass and better resolution. I have extra mesh filters which I can send to you. You will need some fine point tweezers and some strong reading glasses so that you can see what you are doing when positioning the filters. It also helps to have another person hold each IEM for you while you install the filters.

An IEM which sounds as good and very slightly better than the modified EW200 is the Kefine Delci. The Delci is a small and very comfortable IEM. The Delci is tuned with a bit of extra sub bass and bass which is nice for genres like POP and EDM. I use Tri Clarion eartips with the Delci when I am listening to other music genres since the wide bores of the Tri Clarion eartips tame the somewhat excessive bass.

Both the Delci and the modified EW200 are noticeable yet not huge steps up from the Cadenza. For a larger step up from the Cadenza, you will want to look at IEMs in the $200 to $300 range. My current favorite IEM is the Aful Performer 5 especially if I listen to them when using some parametric EQ tweaks for the overall sound.
 
May 27, 2024 at 4:34 AM Post #24 of 27
Provided you'd like to stick with the same bass profile with minor deviations in the ear gain compensation area (how close/in your face and head the vocals and upper mids are, or, in other words, when it's time to choose, how much you need the vocals to be the centerpiece of your music) accepted, then I'd suggest looking into:

Dunu Falcon Ultra
Xenns Up

If you'd like to have something with a cleaner but still powerful bass and you're fine with a bit more relaxed/distant vocals and upper mids, then depending on your tolerance of brightness and treble in general, these are worthy of consideration:

ZiiGaat Doscinco
Yanyin Canon II
Xenns Top
Monarch Mk III

I don't know how much you could spend in the future, but if you go for something between 200-400 (Falcon Ultra, Doscinco, Canon II), but then still would like to experience more, then as a general advice, I'd suggest you skip the Top or the Up (unless you need the exact tuning), and go for the Monarch Mk III, because it's better than those, and by then, not so far off in price... but financial responsibility is even better, so don't go into debt, it's not worth it.

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I can recommendthe yanyin canon ii for bass. It os very well textured and clean. Punchy but still precise and never overwhelming. Only big gripe I have woth the yanyin is the closed headstage.
 
May 28, 2024 at 12:30 PM Post #25 of 27
Which eartips do you prefer for the Orchestra Lite? I am new to IEMs and the stock tips honestly start to hurt after a couple hours. I have some Tang Sancai's coming in the mail, they seem to be the preferred option but was interested in what other users thought?

I use them mainly for gaming, so I am also interested in picking up the Canon II's
 
May 28, 2024 at 12:34 PM Post #26 of 27
Which eartips do you prefer for the Orchestra Lite? I am new to IEMs and the stock tips honestly start to hurt after a couple hours. I have some Tang Sancai's coming in the mail, they seem to be the preferred option but was interested in what other users thought?

I use them mainly for gaming, so I am also interested in picking up the Canon II's
Like most IEMs I own, they work great (for me) with Spinfit CP145s.
 

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