[bk123]

I don't suppose any of you have Zion news? Supposed to have done the rebuilds and shipped in January so they must be lost...

Sorry to hear that you haven't received your Zion. I don't think anyone else has this either. I think you should keep asking for refund through email. You can try IMR facebook as well for your refund status. Alternatively, if there is no scope for refund, then check IMR ebay site and see if you can manage to cut down your losses for any available stock.

 

[jon parker]

@mekap has DC-Elite and Enigma+. Try some used Ak sp1000, I think it may pair up well. Sure Hiby r8 II is an ultimate solution, but it's pretty expensive.

On Titan this piece smashes!

This reminds me of the following . . . for those needful low end slam times



Whilst Im at it
Sohn has one of the best Audiophile albums in this genre (IMO)

 

[fablestruck]

Very nice music selection.
Also thanks for the recommendations about sources.
By the way, I remembered I also had a Fiio K3 usb DAC/AMP. Listening to it with Titan, it is not bad at all. Full bodied midrange, weighty with great imaging.
I've also ordered a k17 to check out. I like that fact that it has also an independent power source of needed.

 

[fablestruck]

https://tidal.com/track/243926154?u

 

[paggio]

This reminds me of the following . . . for those needful low end slam times



Whilst Im at it
Sohn has one of the best Audiophile albums in this genre (IMO)

Seven nation army in this iteration is more on Glitch/Dubstep side, but it bass dropping well too

 

[jon parker]

Seven nation army in this iteration is more on Glitch/Dubstep side, but it bass dropping well too

I couldn't think of the terminology!

 

[rottoman]

How would you guys describe the stage of the Enigma/ Enigma+ (I assume the original lot were closed back) ?
Some how I feel Seraph has better stage ! Enigma doesnt feel as expansive as Seraph.
Do filters and cables alter stage ?

Any pointers if i can achieve a more expansive sound from the ENigma + ?

 

[paggio]

How would you guys describe the stage of the Enigma/ Enigma+ (I assume the original lot were closed back) ?
Some how I feel Seraph has better stage ! Enigma doesnt feel as expansive as Seraph.
Do filters and cables alter stage ?

Any pointers if i can achieve a more expansive sound from the ENigma + ?

3 dimensional stage with kind of layers. So not the largest but not even narrow for sure

 

[fablestruck]

How would you guys describe the stage of the Enigma/ Enigma+ (I assume the original lot were closed back) ?
Some how I feel Seraph has better stage ! Enigma doesnt feel as expansive as Seraph.
Do filters and cables alter stage ?

Any pointers if i can achieve a more expansive sound from the ENigma + ?

As you probably know, wide bore tips that sit more distal into the auditory canal rather than deeply inserted narrow ones, have an effect on sound stage (sense of wide space). Also the source can be definitive factor. I am not sure about cables.
I also confirm that Enigma does not recreate a wide soundstage though imaging (sense of place in space) is robust. Titan is better IMO with these traits.
BUT the exceptionally demarcated bass of Enigma gives a feeling of sound 'sculpting' which is soooo special.

 

[paggio]

Well, Titans sound like it was Bob's work on mistakes regarding Avalon. Because as we mentioned here: after a burn in Avalon used to lose some treble. Here we've got all the richness of treble that audiophile may desire. At least from IMR community. Dynamic driver has an analogue like feedback similar to what we've got on Avalon, so slightly more tubish of a bit fuzzy, but with good body and impact. Enigmas have the DD closer for what they were on Astra ultraque - faster so they don't perceive that analogycal. I thought they would be more similar considering the same diameter, but I mistook.
Avalon are slightly more demanding regarding the amplification, I need to volume up a bit changing to them from Enigma.
So if somebody liked Avalon and wants something close but with even more bass extension and better/richer treble, this is your choice.
Enigma are clearly another generation and different approach. The transparency of the sound is the first thing that you hear after you pass from Titan. This makes enigma appear more open regarding their timbre. Overall they sound is more linear comparing to the V shaped predecessor. The bad point of this is that you need to have good quality audio or you'll be a victim of dirty flood. Avalon are more forgivable.
I'm sorry for the eventual mistakes

UPD. On titan there is some diaphragm crackle while you insert them into the ear. Fortunately Enigma lost this feature

Thanks @koledoff1986 for this opportunity

Another thing I forgot to mention. Titan comparing to enigma because of less forwarded mids result darker

 

[Zeppmeister]

If anyone forgot .... Penon still has Seraph, Elan+, and Rah 2023. Sold out of BC. Whatever!

 

[rottoman]

As you probably know, wide bore tips that sit more distal into the auditory canal rather than deeply inserted narrow ones, have an effect on sound stage (sense of wide space). Also the source can be definitive factor. I am not sure about cables.
I also confirm that Enigma does not recreate a wide soundstage though imaging (sense of place in space) is robust. Titan is better IMO with these traits.
BUT the exceptionally demarcated bass of Enigma gives a feeling of sound 'sculpting' which is soooo special.

Thank you . I will try wide bore tips. I agree Enigma has narrow stage as a result crowded imaging ?

 

[rottoman]

3 dimensional stage with kind of layers. So not the largest but not even narrow for sure

What do you mean layers ?
I do find it narrow and crowded at times.

 

[fablestruck]

You know guys, I do see some discrepancy here in the descriptions. I am more on the side of @rottoman I believe than @paggio as Enigma is concerned. A decisive factor must be, apart from objective sound production by the IEM, the psychoacoustics component. That is, differences in our respective biases and interpretation of what we hear. And of course language differences and semantics as it is not always straightforward for all, what 'layers' or 'transparency' means, or other terms many of us use here. That is why I prefer 'real life metaphor descriptions' that relay meaning more easily of what anybody hears (like @paggio and @jon parker sometimes do).

 

[paggio]

You know guys, I do see some discrepancy here in the descriptions. I am more on the side of @rottoman I believe than @paggio as Enigma is concerned. A decisive factor must be, apart from objective sound production by the IEM, the psychoacoustics component. That is, differences in our respective biases and interpretation of what we hear. And of course language differences and semantics as it is not always straightforward for all, what 'layers' or 'transparency' means, or other terms many of us use here. That is why I prefer 'real life metaphor descriptions' that relay meaning more easily of what anybody hears (like @paggio and @jon parker sometimes do).

When I said layers I meant that sometimes there are kind of different levels into to the imagining sound stage and you can distinguish: determinate sound came from further or closer layer. Obviously not every track has kind of pricise and complex sounstage, but I noticed this ability into some songs I listened to.