iCAN Amp Review: A New Amp that Gives You More: More Bass, More Soundstage and More Detail
Jun 12, 2017 at 3:48 PM Post #646 of 658
What do u mean by earth loop?

You may want to peruse this small troubleshooting guide for system noise:

http://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/data/Why does my audio system hum_.pdf

It describes both earth loops and missing earth situations and how to resolve them. While multiple commercial and reasonably affordable solutions exist for earth loops, until recently "missing earth" was not a common problem and hence no affordable solution existed.

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We have lately introduced a small accessory that can be used to help in situation where a system exhibits noise because it is mains powered but contains no earth connection.

http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-groundhog/

The above may help your understanding your problem and provide solutions.
 
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Jun 12, 2017 at 10:36 PM Post #647 of 658
You may want to peruse this small troubleshooting guide for system noise:

http://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/data/Why does my audio system hum_.pdf

It describes both earth loops and missing earth situations and how to resolve them. While multiple commercial and reasonably affordable solutions exist for earth loops, until recently "missing earth" was not a common problem and hence no affordable solution existed.

We have lately introduced a small accessory that can be used to help in situation where a system exhibits noise because it is mains powered but contains no earth connection.

http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-groundhog/ Do you mean no ground?(outlets aren't grounded?)

The above may help your understanding your problem and provide solutions.
 
Aug 20, 2018 at 3:28 PM Post #649 of 658
Hello.
I got this amp last week and I dont know, does it have a very bad synergy with LCD-2? The sound is not that harsh ( it is from time to time) but its so bright and shouty It gives me headache after 5 minutes of listening. And its also kind of dry and flat, nothing of that warmness and smoothness that I read about.
I really wanted to like it because of its 4w power.
Dac im using with it is Chord Mojo.
 
Aug 20, 2018 at 4:14 PM Post #650 of 658
Hello.
I got this amp last week and I dont know, does it have a very bad synergy with LCD-2? The sound is not that harsh ( it is from time to time) but its so bright and shouty It gives me headache after 5 minutes of listening. And its also kind of dry and flat, nothing of that warmness and smoothness that I read about.
I really wanted to like it because of its 4w power.
Dac im using with it is Chord Mojo.

Hmm, your description doesn't fit the product.

Please feel free to shoot us a message here: http://support.ifi-audio.com

Our staff might be able to help you out or at least guide you in the right direction.
 
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Aug 20, 2018 at 5:18 PM Post #651 of 658
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Aug 21, 2018 at 5:40 AM Post #652 of 658
Hello.
I got this amp last week and I dont know, does it have a very bad synergy with LCD-2? The sound is not that harsh ( it is from time to time) but its so bright and shouty It gives me headache after 5 minutes of listening. And its also kind of dry and flat, nothing of that warmness and smoothness that I read about.
I really wanted to like it because of its 4w power.
Dac im using with it is Chord Mojo.
Is it brand new?

Assuming you are talking about micro iCAN SE, I found it took more than 200 hours before signs of greatness emerged.

It took 300 hours for a new SE to catch up with my well used micro iCAN.

Brightness can occur with the 3D engaged but one just uses the XBASS to balance it out.
 
Aug 21, 2018 at 1:29 PM Post #653 of 658
Is it brand new?

Assuming you are talking about micro iCAN SE, I found it took more than 200 hours before signs of greatness emerged.

It took 300 hours for a new SE to catch up with my well used micro iCAN.

Brightness can occur with the 3D engaged but one just uses the XBASS to balance it out.
Yes it is. So far burn in time is 120 h. I read here that it could take even 400 h before it sounded right.
But could burn in change the sound that much? Going from bright to warm/dark?
Im thinking maybe its me. Maybe I was expecting a different sound signature and now that its something else I automatically get dissapointed. I read alot about that smooth tube a like sound. And yeah I played around with those settings. 3D sound is cool but makes it even more hasrh sounding. Xbass one dot doesnt do much. 2 dots, the bass is good quality and not boomy but it steals the show. Bass becomes the main focus, too much. And voices are still really shouty.
I wanted a lush lush very dark smokey romantic sound. Lean good bass but still in the background. Thats why I got the LCD-2.
So maybe thats why this sound super bright to me when in fact they are not.
Anyway I am burning in them now as we speak. Im gonna give it another go in 2 weeks to see whats what.
 
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Aug 21, 2018 at 2:10 PM Post #655 of 658
Yes it is. So far burn in time is 120 h. I read here that it could take even 400 h before it sounded right.
But could burn in change the sound that much? Going from bright to warm/dark?...
It's never going to sound 'dark'. Kit which sounds dark is coloured. The iCAN is not coloured. It is flat, clean and has great timing/musicality and good instrument separation. Much depends on the source though.

What are you feeding it with?

Harshness in = harshness out

'lush, lush, dark, smoky, romantic' will be heard if they in the recording but if you want to hear that all the time with all your music you will need a very different amp - probably a valve (tube) model and one that is specifically designed to make everything sound that way.
 
Aug 21, 2018 at 2:48 PM Post #656 of 658
It's never going to sound 'dark'. Kit which sounds dark is coloured. The iCAN is not coloured. It is flat, clean and has great timing/musicality and good instrument separation. Much depends on the source though.

What are you feeding it with?

Harshness in = harshness out

'lush, lush, dark, smoky, romantic' will be heard if they in the recording but if you want to hear that all the time with all your music you will need a very different amp - probably a valve (tube) model and one that is specifically designed to make everything sound that way.
If its not coloured what is all that tube talking about?
Onkyo dp-x1a —> Chord Mojo —> Ifi ican se —> Lcd-2
The thing is I also have Fiio e12a and this has that sound Im looking for. Im always going back to it no matter what amp I try. It has such a unique sound, I just wish it had 4w of power. Love that feeling of have a lot of power too.
I always loved amps with personality rather than measuring good.
So it can be done without tubes.

What was the biggest change after it was fully burned? And did it come gardually or suddenly?
 
Aug 21, 2018 at 4:55 PM Post #657 of 658
What was the biggest change after it was fully burned? And did it come gardually or suddenly?
After the first 200 hours, during which I find most pieces undergo 'growing pains' and sound quite strange and even bad at times, after that it's all about smoothness, detail, resolution, separation - the stuff that separates the great from the ordinary.

Maybe worth pointing out that most kit sounds better after it's been playing for a half hour or so and can sound a bit bland from cold.

As for what the FiiO e12a is doing, well I have never listened to one so I can't imagine but it does sound like it's trying to achieve a specific sound and may well be colouring everything that it played through it.

On the subject of tube amps, I am a bit scathing having heard a few and owned a good one and experienced tube-rolling first hand. In my opinion a good tube amp sounds just like a solid state amp, clean, clear, detailed, musical, but without the harshness and grain that can afflict solid state designs to varying degrees. Any valve amp that sounds syrupy or golden or euphonic or dark or romantic is simply a poor design or using poor tubes in my opinion (or the designer intended it to sound that way - it happens).

I'm sure someone will be along in a few microseconds to take issue with that statement but that is my experience and my opinion. I like solid state amps that are based on tube circuits and generally use FETs of one sort or another. Not a hard and fast rule but they tend to sound more musical to me - but there are exceptions although they are generally costly.

But that's enough rambling from me. I probably haven't helped at all here. Never mind. If you love the FiiO then keep enjoying it and forget the rest.
 
Aug 22, 2018 at 10:21 AM Post #658 of 658
Hi, this is a bit of a long shot - but I got an iCan with the iPower power adapter with a US plug only - is there by chance anyone out there who has the EU plug accessory and would be willing to part with it? It seems it can't be ordered separately.

Posting this in other threads with potential iPower owners - apologies if it's spammy.

Thank you!
 

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