i1, born for iPhone7, the first " MFi " headphone amplifier from FiiO
Mar 28, 2016 at 5:28 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 120

JamesFiiO

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We are applying MFi from Apple company, and will design a new headphone amp for iPhone with lightning connector. for example, iphone 6, iphone6s, and especially, there are news say that iPhone 7 may remove the 3.5mm headphone jack。  
 
 
here is the main features:
 
1, bulild in DAC and headphone amp. supports up to 48K/16bit ( limited by Apple ).
 
2, build in remote control ( play / pause, vol+/- , tracks forward/backward ).
 
3, build in micphone.
 
4, build in battery for 10 hours + playback. micro usb power supply.
 
5, high S/N and low distortion and high power output. 
 
6, Metal case.
 
7, Clip design.
 
8, MSPR: to be decided but will not as cheap as our A1/E06/E02i/k1, cause we have to pay a lots of money to buy the LAM module and connector from Apple Inc. also it includes micphone, an DAC chip, so  I think maybe $60 ~ $70 or even more. 
 
9, ETA: Sep.
 

 
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Mar 29, 2016 at 4:01 AM Post #3 of 120
Our engineers just tell us that iAmp3 supports iPhone 5S as well. 
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In order to make iAmp3 perfectly in the future , we are keen to know to your suggestions for our this tiny amp. 
 
We are waiting here to listen to your suggestions.
 
Thanks a lot,
 
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Mar 29, 2016 at 10:41 PM Post #5 of 120
  Do you still plan on releasing an MFi cable for the Q1, etc.? If so, will it look like this? The L19 on AliExpress doesn't look like it will fit with cases.
 
Additionally, will this cable work in the interim until the L19 comes out?

8BitKid,
 
Yep ,once we got the MFi from Apple ,we do love to release a MFi cable for Q1 ,E17K,etc. please kindly wait !!
 
For that cable you mentioned , it may work for the Q1 ,but please kindly set the Q1 to be CHG OFF.
 
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Mar 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM Post #6 of 120
Very excited for this, I'm surprised nobody's quite made something like this yet for Lightning devices. I have a Fiio E1, but it's hard to clip on without hitting the fast forward button, and you're stuck using the 30-pin adapter's DAC, I guess. Also, the mic on this one would be perfect for if you get calls while walking about, or using BA IEMs.
 
Mar 31, 2016 at 12:02 AM Post #8 of 120
  There is the COZOY Astrapi, which claims to be MFi and connects via a lightning to micro usb cable. However, I found (similar to the K1) that the DAC/AMP didn't work well with my Etymotic IEM's, so I sent it back.

 
Cozoy doesn't claim to be MFi certified, just to be clear. They only claim their DAC/amp doesn't need CCK. The difference is that Cozoy is able to 'trick' the iOS into thinking that it is already connected to a CCK via a, well, less-than-official method. MFi is a different thing all together as it used a Apple licensed chip to communicate to the iOS and such no CCK is needed at all.
 
Mar 31, 2016 at 12:50 PM Post #9 of 120
Interesting... I wonder if it is the cable that "tricks" the iOS device, or something in the Cozoy. It makes me think Apple just has some blanket policy of not allowing male USB mini to male Lightning cables to get MFi certification.
 
With this unit, @JamesFiiO, I'd be really interested if this will perform better with IEM's like the Etymotics, because it was a shame I had to return my K1.
 
Mar 31, 2016 at 1:45 PM Post #10 of 120
  Interesting... I wonder if it is the cable that "tricks" the iOS device, or something in the Cozoy. It makes me think Apple just has some blanket policy of not allowing male USB mini to male Lightning cables to get MFi certification.
 
With this unit, @JamesFiiO, I'd be really interested if this will perform better with IEM's like the Etymotics, because it was a shame I had to return my K1.

Unless you need something that clips specifically, the Q1 actually works pretty well with my Etymotics.
 
And I think I've seen elsewhere that the Cozoy's Lightning cable doesn't work with other devices, so it's likely something in the Cozoy itself.
 
Mar 31, 2016 at 2:19 PM Post #11 of 120
  Interesting... I wonder if it is the cable that "tricks" the iOS device, or something in the Cozoy. It makes me think Apple just has some blanket policy of not allowing male USB mini to male Lightning cables to get MFi certification.
 
With this unit, @JamesFiiO, I'd be really interested if this will perform better with IEM's like the Etymotics, because it was a shame I had to return my K1.

 
Nothing in the cable. The circuit that tricks the iOS is on the DAC/amp itself. I have taken it apart to look into the design,
 
Mar 31, 2016 at 3:50 PM Post #13 of 120
JamesFiio,

Congratulations for this product.
IOS users sometimes feel a little bit lost among the huge USB world :wink:

I have a question. Could you please explain a little bit more regarding Apple limitation to 48k/16bit?

I have some doubts about it. Specially because Audeze talks about 24bits when promote their cipher.

Thanks in advance!
 

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