[moeburn]

It is one of my favorite albums, but it is like the engineer was TRYING to make it sound terrible with all the over compression and digital clipping. Is there anything I can do with, say, Audition to clean up the clipping?

 

[xantus]

that'd be like performing surgery with a butter knife.

 

[duff138]

isn't it funny that 99% of the people that own it or reviewed it never notice how ****** it sounds?
maybe buy the vinyl, if you have a turntable. There's a chance it was mastered differently

 

[mightyacorn]

Hehe, agreed.

 

[sonic32]

I hate that, some of my CD's that I really like sound terrible and it distracts me from enjoying the music.

 

[moeburn]

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Originally Posted by duff138 isn't it funny that 99% of the people that own it or reviewed it never notice how ****** it sounds? maybe buy the vinyl, if you have a turntable. There's a chance it was mastered differently

One could only hope

 

[blessingx]

Maybe WaveGain to help a little with the clipping?

 

[moeburn]

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Originally Posted by blessingx Maybe WaveGain to help a little with the clipping?

Its not that its clipping now, its that it was clipping when they recorded it.

"Hey guys, good session, but lets compress the range to make it alot louder. Louder means good, right?"

 

[Riordan]

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Originally Posted by duff138 isn't it funny that 99% of the people that own it or reviewed it never notice how ****** it sounds?

no, that's not funny, that's depressing.

 

[cire]

so it really does sound like crap... i was blaming my cd for being a little scratched....

 

[Oliver :)]

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Originally Posted by duff138 isn't it funny that 99% of the people that own it or reviewed it never notice how ****** it sounds?

Sure did, it is so terribly harsh, clippy & compressed that I listened to it... what, two times? It is just unbearable, shame about the great music.

 

[james__bean]

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Originally Posted by moeburn Its not that its clipping now, its that it was clipping when they recorded it. "Hey guys, good session, but lets compress the range to make it alot louder. Louder means good, right?"

Is there any way to actually know that? Excuse me if this is a dumb question, but is there any way to know if a recording was screwed up during the recording process as opposed to being screwed up in the mastering process? How would you know the difference just by listening to the cd? I had just figured that they mastered the album horribly and was hoping for a remaster at some point. But if for some reason the recordings were just crap, well then there's no hope

 

[Girdag]

Not as bad mastering as Contraband by Velvet Revolver. Listen to Suckertown Blues - a great track ruined by the hideous ammount of noise obscuring the music.

 

[ken36]

This all makes me want to cry.

 

[periurban]

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Originally Posted by james__bean Is there any way to actually know that? Excuse me if this is a dumb question, but is there any way to know if a recording was screwed up during the recording process as opposed to being screwed up in the mastering process? How would you know the difference just by listening to the cd? I had just figured that they mastered the album horribly and was hoping for a remaster at some point. But if for some reason the recordings were just crap, well then there's no hope

It takes some experience of putting music together in a recording environment to be able to spot a bad recording session from a bad mix from a bad master.

There are a few pointers.

If the audio quality is variable, with some tracks sounding good and some not, then that's probably a recording issue. Perhaps the tracks were recorded at different studios, or/and with different gear/personnel.

Is one instrument dominating the mix? (McCartney's bass on Band on the Run comes to mind.) Maybe the offending instrument was played by a forceful personality! That's a mix problem.

Are all the instruments over-compressed? Are there any passages or breaks where the sound breathes properly? The usual method of employing compression is to record everything as straight as possible, with only the lightest limitation/compression to take care of any unexpected transients. The real deal is usually added during the mix when sonic problems that need to be dealt with come to light.

You can tell if the audible compression was only added at the mastering stage, because the compression will affect all the instruments in an ensemble crecendo more or less equally. Having said that the idea behind multiband compression is that the individual bands of the audio spectrum can be compressed in isolation.

So, if the cymbal crash is too loud on the final mix, it might trigger compression, but only in the treble region.

The whole idea with compression is that it shouldn't normally be heard. So, if you are hearing it, someone messed up big time.

Difficult one to be precise about.

(If I get a chance to hear the album I will report back. Is there any particular track where the problem is most evident?)