[AmberOzL]

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Yes. As for the amp, there's not much point since the HDP-R10 is supposed to be an all in 1 DAP. However, if you want an amp to drive something like the LCD-3 better, maybe get an ALO RX-MKIII B.

Thanks lin0003. I think I won't need an amp for a long time. When I bought it and if still I have questions in my mind, I will ask here.

 

[AmberOzL]

What is the difference between 6.3 mm HO and 3.5 mm HO? Well, I mean, apart from their size. Does 6.3mm HO provide more power? I think it is a nice touch to have that option in a DAP but apart from DX100 and C4 no one have it. In C4 it provides more power what about DX100 / HDP R10?

 

[rmap]

The 6.3mm HO can be used with IEM together with an adapter. I have tried both HO with my JH13 FP (which has an excellent synergy with R10/DX100) and I prefer the standard 3.5mm which seems to provide a more smooth sound. My favorite settings are high gain and 3.5mm HO.

 

[AmberOzL]

So it does affect the sound. Is it more powerful you mean or what is the difference in between exactly? I know pretty much every headphone purchase come with an adapter for 6.3mm but honestly I didn't have a chance to use them so they just stay around there doing nothing. Since I am about to get that DAP I wanted to learn if there is a difference or not.

 

[rmap]

In my experience (and with my IEMs) the 3.5mm HO sounds more natural, with very lively and smooth mids. The 6.3mm seems to be more focused on the treble and, while giving a somewhat wider soundstage, it sounds more hifi  and slightly grainy to me. Please keep in mind the effects most likely will depend on the specific model of IEM/cable used.

 

[AmberOzL]

Thanks rmap, very nice explanation 

 

[zachchen1996]

Where can you even get a hdp-r10? Other than ebay and amazon?

 

[AmberOzL]

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Where can you even get a hdp-r10? Other than ebay and amazon?

PriceJapan.com. That's where I will buy.

 

[lin0003]

I actually find the 1/4 jack had better detail slightly.

 

[rudi0504]

I agree the UI seems more responsive and easier to use on HDP-R10. Sound wise I also prefer the HDP-R10.

We have the same impression
I and my friends have already compared DX100 vs HDPR 10
With many headphone and even active speaker .
The winner is my HDP R10 , the SQ more balance and very clean and more black background .

 

[rudi0504]

Importing it to Eu will cost around 700 euros. I think price/performance it is a killer. I really don't mind it's size and I won't use it with amp. I was thinking Portaphile but it uses same opamp627, I don't think it will improve the sound of R10. Any ideas about it? Any suggestions for portable amp?

I really think I am going to get this, nothing seems like proving better sound quality and features.

Link Lin already suggested alo Rx 3 B , Intruder and pico power .
The best if I pair with WAGNUS Epsilon S
The SQ from line out is better than from HO, cleaner and more detail
Wider soundstage , better separation.
The reason if you use with external amp with line out , you have pure sound from digital dac chip Sabre ,
If you use HO , it is so kind double amping , not pure SQ from sabre dac chip

 

[lin0003]

Link Lin already suggested alo Rx 3 B , Intruder and pico power .
The best if I pair with WAGNUS Epsilon S
The SQ from line out is better than from HO, cleaner and more detail
Wider soundstage , better separation.
The reason if you use with external amp with line out , you have pure sound from digital dac chip Sabre ,
If you use HO , it is so kind double amping , not pure SQ from sabre dac chip

That's a very good explanation Rudi!

 

[AmberOzL]

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Link Lin already suggested alo Rx 3 B , Intruder and pico power .
The best if I pair with WAGNUS Epsilon S
The SQ from line out is better than from HO, cleaner and more detail
Wider soundstage , better separation.
The reason if you use with external amp with line out , you have pure sound from digital dac chip Sabre ,
If you use HO , it is so kind double amping , not pure SQ from sabre dac chip

You are a great man, thanks! 

 

[AmberOzL]

So you guys also suggest Miracles? They match perfectly with the Sabre chip?

 

[lin0003]

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So you guys also suggest Miracles? They match perfectly with the Sabre chip?

YES! They are a perfect match! Listening to those 2 right now.