[joseph69]

I like to listen pretty loud and will usually run 12:00, plus or minus for soft / hot recordings. I apply my listening sessions relatively sparingly; it's bad to use those levels on a daily basis for very long. This is with a Yggy and 009 or L700. With 007 mk 1 I find myself pushing towards 3:00.

And do not confuse power drive capabilities with gain.

I find myself listening at louder volumes with my 007mkll.
I find them to perform incredible at higher volumes, but I definitely don't make this a habit.

 

[deuter]

I find myself listening at louder volumes with my 007mkll.
I find them to perform incredible at higher volumes, but I definitely don't make this a habit.

What volume level did you use with the SR 007 MK1 when it was incredibly loud.

 

[joseph69]

What volume level did you use with the SR 007 MK1 when it was incredibly loud.

 
With the RK50 (because I know you have the DACT and claimed differences) I would say 1-3 o'clock. I also did the port mod. I also removed the springs, but only because I didn't like the ease of the pads/cups rotating. There is a nice amount of friction without the springs between the pads/cups now to keep the pads where I like them.

 

[deuter]

With the RK50 (because I know you have the DACT and claimed differences) I would say 1-3 o'clock. I also did the port mod. I also removed the springs, but only because I didn't like the ease of the pads/cups rotating. There is a nice amount of friction without the springs between the pads/cups now to keep the pads where I like them.

The fact that you have both the SR007 and the SR009, does it really warrant keeping them both ?

Aren't they just the same apart from SR 009 having more treble detail and better comfort.

 

[joseph69]

 

With the RK50 (because I know you have the DACT and claimed differences) I would say 1-3 o'clock. I also did the port mod. I also removed the springs, but only because I didn't like the ease of the pads/cups rotating. There is a nice amount of friction without the springs between the pads/cups now to keep the pads where I like them.

The fact that you have both the SR007 and the SR009, does it really warrant keeping them both ?

Aren't they just the same apart from SR 009 having more treble detail and better comfort.

Sure does warrant keeping both because they have different sound-signatures. 
Have you heard them both and come to this conclusion from your experience?

 

[wink]

The fact that you have both the SR007 and the SR009, does it really warrant keeping them both ?

Aren't they just the same apart from SR 009 having more treble detail and better comfort.

I have 2 of each.....  

 
The SR-007 & SR-009 are both different animals in their own glorious right.

 

[The Monkey]

I'm thinking of getting a second 007.  Just because.
 
Also, I really should set up my BHSE.

 

[mulveling]

LMAO, this is summit-fi; we don't need to justify owning several pairs of expensive headphones (two 009, 007 Mk I, L700, L3000, HD650 for myself; amp situation is even worse). 

 

[Ali-Pacha]

Yeah, no justification. Only happiness in our madness 

Ali

 

[deuter]

Super, but why multiple same headphones ?

As for your question on whether Inhave heard both , I have only briefly heard the SR009 with the Blue Hawaii but that was at a show and I found it thin sounding. But this was in a noisy area I am sure the headphone is capable of a lot better performance.

 

[joseph69]

Super, but why multiple same headphones ?

As for your question on whether Inhave heard both , I have only briefly heard the SR009 with the Blue Hawaii but that was at a show and I found it thin sounding. But this was in a noisy area I am sure the headphone is capable of a lot better performance.

It must have been the show conditions because my 009/BHSE is far from thin sounding. I also feel you cant just listen to a system for a few minutes and draw a true impression, only an initial impression. I feel you need to spend sufficient time (in home) with any system to draw a true impression for yourself, which is why I buy and try.

 

[deuter]

It must have been the show conditions because my 009/BHSE is far from thin sounding. I also feel you cant just listen to a system for a few minutes and draw a true impression, only an initial impression. I feel you need to spend sufficient time (in home) with any system to draw a true impression for yourself, which is why I buy and try.

 


As I said, I'am sure they sound really balanced but I just haven't heard them.
Loving the SR007 MK1 so far

 

[Ali-Pacha]

Super, but why multiple same headphones ?

As for your question on whether Inhave heard both , I have only briefly heard the SR009 with the Blue Hawaii but that was at a show and I found it thin sounding. But this was in a noisy area I am sure the headphone is capable of a lot better performance.

I don't own multiple units of the same model, but I could understand the reasons. Sometimes it's because of an allegedly difference in production (lots of talk on 007mk1 about it...see HiFiman HE6 too, with 4/6 screws), sometimes it's because of spare parts as they are completely out of production (Sony MDR-R10, Stax Omega). But I may only be for the sake of collecting.
 
I like to say we're all completely crazy as we cross the "HD600 + Objective2" frontier, which represents a kind of pricetag ceiling for ordinary people. So I won't blame our fellow hobbyists to be crazy, even if they have a different way from mine to be so 

 
 
BHSE really opens up 009, with lots more of details / air / soundstage than any Stax amp, giving some lushness to the mids (t00bs !) and real impact / volume to the bass. As they have the 1-2 khz Stax coquetry, this amount of air / details may absolutely be perceived as brightness, but it depends on tubes and source. Throw a DS / Sabre-y DAC and keep stock tubes (Mullards re-issue and Shuguang treasures to a lesser extent), you'll have something delicate but undoubtely bright and a bit thin. Take a R2R or warm DAC + other tubes (PSVane, NOS Mullards, Mesa Boogie), it's another story.
 
It also depends on your reference point and which frequencies you're sensitive too. From my point of view :
- HD800 have a 6 khz peak with tons of details, 100-150 hz hump, something bloomy in the mids (Senn's veil ? )...they're bright, but it's not the same kind of brightness as 009. I like them for ambient, live venues, and everyday listening (games and movies too)
- Utopia are very impactful but not that dynamic, with something fake to my ears : struggling bass (small driver ? See Frog and Ox from La Fontaine), weird FR, robotic sound (think vocoder), and any tape hiss thrown at your face, covering lots of music
- Beyerdynamics all have a "peak of death" between 7 and 9 khz, unbearable to my ears as it has e-dyn grain.
- Fostex TH-900 are boomy phones, but they have some peak around 10 khz, and for me, that's a sound of tinnitus 

- Orthos do also have a peak / wall most of the time in the highs, but depends. Abyss is an exemple of this peak, very screechy to my ears.
- 007 have also a kind of peak around 8 khz, but with e-stat mellowness. This dzingy sound, like an ever ringing cymbal, gives a one-note touch to the highs and is one of the reasons I sold mine (lack of impact / bit floating bass and too-veiled-to-be-true tone are others)
- Orpheus clones have the best FR I've ever heard, with nothing of the bit hifi / fake tone of 009 (though impactful and highly enjoyable to me) and throwing 007 dull-sound-which-pretends-to-be-true-but-is-in-its-own-way-faker-than-009 to the dust
 
All the above are 100% subjective, my journey in this hobby taught me I'm very sensitive to oddities above 6-7 khz (modded HD800 are fine to me), so assume I'm a complete moron if you hear differently, it'll be easier than the everlasting 007 vs 009 fight 

 
Back to the thread, 009 are said to be gorgeous out the DHT 845 amp of @FrankCooter, but @jude is the only guy who owns one...and they're a jealous crowd (within which I stand) around this 

 
 
Ali

 

[wink]

Super, but why multiple same headphones ?

As for your question on whether Inhave heard both , I have only briefly heard the SR009 with the Blue Hawaii but that was at a show and I found it thin sounding. But this was in a noisy area I am sure the headphone is capable of a lot better performance.

I have 2 of each because I have other people listening to my system with me.
 
Nothing worse that watching someone listening to a track, and sitting there like a dummy.
 
Yeah, yeah, I know - get a set of speakers.   zimple.
 

 

[deuter]

I have 2 of each because I have other people listening to my system with me.

Nothing worse that watching someone listening to a track, and sitting there like a dummy.

Yeah, yeah, I know - get a set of speakers.   zimple.

That is really cool, who build it ?