FIRST IMPRESSIONS: Nuforce NE-700X earphones / IEM (non-mic version) - post your thoughts here
Sep 11, 2011 at 6:17 PM Post #196 of 235


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Can anyone comment on the fit? After ordering, I noticed that the buds on the NE-700X are slightly shorter than the NE-6. In order to get the NE-6 to seal, I have to use biflanges or Complys and insert them with the cord facing upwards so the plastic strain relief won't prevent it from going in deep enough. This way the cord just barely clears my ear canal enough to fit, so I'm concerned that the NE-700X are short enough that they won't seal for me. That would be beyond frustrating - I was really looking forward to hearing these and nothing's worse than having a great new pair of earphones that won't stay sealed for more than ten minutes at a time.

I have both of these and the fit in 700's is better.  I never was able to get the NE-6 to fit right (but my son doesn't have any problems).  I did have some problems at first with the 700's (using a silicone tip) but was able to figure out a good fit.  I like them a good value earphone with microphone capabilities.
 
 
 
Sep 16, 2011 at 12:09 PM Post #197 of 235
I just got mine from Nuforce today. My NE-6 developed a short after almost a year, and when I contacted Nuforce they offered me an upgrade - it ended up costing me around $13 with shipping factored in, and they let me KEEP my NE-6, which I easily repaired myself.
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Greatest company I've ever dealt with... seriously!
 
Anyway - for some reason mine didn't come with bi or tri flanges, so I transferred my NE-6's biflanges over to them. The fit isn't perfect... I'm not sure what the terminology is to describe this phenomenon, but sometimes I'll feel pressure in my ear and the sound gets blotted out. Then when I remove them, the biflange inevitably comes off and gets stuck in my ear. Apparently I have to now carry a pair of tweezers around with me wherever I go. I'm wondering if tri-flanges would be a more appropriate fit.
 
Fantastic sounding headphones though. Nuforce now has my loyalty for life. I'm anxious to try more of their products in the future. 
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Oct 14, 2011 at 12:46 PM Post #198 of 235
Hate to keep bumping an older thread , but more thoughts on these -
 
I didn't realize that I still wasn't getting a proper seal on these. The triflanges seemed to seal ok, but they started to hurt if i pushed them in too far, so the IEMs were actually resting rather shallowly in my ears without my realizing it. I modded the triflanges by cutting off the smallest flange, and now these seal incredibly well and deep in my ears. Looks like I finally found the perfect tip solution for my humungous freak ear canals.
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I actually prefer the modded triflange over even Comply foam, since these don't dampen treble at all and are more comfortable.
 
The bass on these is pretty insane when you're able to push them in deep. Even with bass heavy headphones, I usually turn the sub-bass up a bit while listening to bassy genres. I couldn't even do that with these... even with the bass EQ at zero, these pump out ultra heavy(but textured and controlled) bass. I'm having a blast listening to some of my favorite electronic and underground hip-hop songs with these. The overall imaging and detail are excellent too. These are also the first headphones that I can listen to with the EQ on neutral if I want to - though I prefer to boost the treble a bit.  I'd say these are my new favorite IEMs, for the time being at least.
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These honestly make the NE-6 sound like garbage in comparison.
 
Oct 18, 2011 at 1:20 AM Post #199 of 235


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Hate to keep bumping an older thread , but more thoughts on these -
 
I didn't realize that I still wasn't getting a proper seal on these. The triflanges seemed to seal ok, but they started to hurt if i pushed them in too far, so the IEMs were actually resting rather shallowly in my ears without my realizing it. I modded the triflanges by cutting off the smallest flange, and now these seal incredibly well and deep in my ears. Looks like I finally found the perfect tip solution for my humungous freak ear canals.
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I actually prefer the modded triflange over even Comply foam, since these don't dampen treble at all and are more comfortable.
 
The bass on these is pretty insane when you're able to push them in deep. Even with bass heavy headphones, I usually turn the sub-bass up a bit while listening to bassy genres. I couldn't even do that with these... even with the bass EQ at zero, these pump out ultra heavy(but textured and controlled) bass. I'm having a blast listening to some of my favorite electronic and underground hip-hop songs with these. The overall imaging and detail are excellent too. These are also the first headphones that I can listen to with the EQ on neutral if I want to - though I prefer to boost the treble a bit.  I'd say these are my new favorite IEMs, for the time being at least.
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These honestly make the NE-6 sound like garbage in comparison.


Glad you got the fit all figured out.  The seal can make or break an IEM's sound.
 
 
Dec 1, 2011 at 7:17 AM Post #200 of 235
I absolutely love these earphones. My only complaint is a short has developed on the right wide with the last 2 pairs I've used. The first time it was in the wire next to the jack and this time it is right below the 'Y' split.

The last time, I emailed nuforce and they sent me a new pair the next day and didn't require me to ship the defective ones back first. Love this company for doing that. It shows they really care about their customers. I just submitted a new ticket for my current pair so I'm hoping everything goes as smooth as it did last time.
 
Jan 6, 2012 at 3:27 PM Post #201 of 235
It's a sad day, my NE-700X's right earbud is dead silent :frowning2: . Somewhat strange as I've handled them quite nicely. I have to admit that the sound on these earphones is incredible, but when it comes to durability I'm not so impressed. Do you guys have any idea if this is DIY fixable, maybe it's just some little connection issue. But I guess it's no worth even trying. Too bad I bought these headphones from the Netherlands and I live in Finland so the warranty replacement thing could get a bit exciting... but I guess I could try :D
 
Feb 25, 2012 at 6:18 AM Post #203 of 235
After reading great reviews on the NE-700 M, I'm just about to order a pair.  Then I'm confused when doing a UK distributor search and found NE-8 on a couple websites.  There's no NE-8 on NuForce's own website though.  So I don't know which to go for now?
 
Feb 25, 2012 at 6:32 AM Post #204 of 235


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After reading great reviews on the NE-700 M, I'm just about to order a pair.  Then I'm confused when doing a UK distributor search and found NE-8 on a couple websites.  There's no NE-8 on NuForce's own website though.  So I don't know which to go for now?



Forgot to add a link:
 
http://www.oxfordaudio.co.uk/features3.html
 
Feb 25, 2012 at 6:39 AM Post #205 of 235


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Forgot to add a link:
 
http://www.oxfordaudio.co.uk/features3.html



Just found out the the NE-8 is actually an older model (strange numbering?!), so I'd go for the NE-700 M now.  The playback buttons control would be handy, although don't think I'd use the mic much for hand free.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/389811/nuforce-ne-8-arrived-short-review-updated-pg1
 
Feb 26, 2012 at 1:02 AM Post #206 of 235


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Just found out the the NE-8 is actually an older model (strange numbering?!), so I'd go for the NE-700 M now.  The playback buttons control would be handy, although don't think I'd use the mic much for hand free.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/389811/nuforce-ne-8-arrived-short-review-updated-pg1


Yep.  I found the NE-8 to have good clarity and soundstage, but they lacked in the bass area vs the others and were difficult to obtain a good seal/fit.
 
Mar 25, 2012 at 8:36 AM Post #207 of 235


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I've spent a bit of time listening to the new Nuforce NE-700X over the past few weeks, and wanted to post my impressions of them.  (The NE-700M have a microphone)
 

 
As many people know, in the budget earphone category I have been a fan of the Nuforce NE-7M and NE-6 earphones, which when upgraded with Shure E2c silicone tips or Complys T400 foam tips sound pretty good for their price.  The NE-8 were not bad, but they were very difficult for me to obtain a good fit for the best sound, and the stock tips didn't seal for me at all.  With a lot of effort towards a good fit I could appreciate their increased detail and soundstage, but I had to press them to my ears with my hands to get the right bass.  
 
The NE-700X are a step up from their previous entries, both in terms of build and sound.  They are using a new manufacturer for these, with machined aluminum driver housings, titanium drivers, and upgraded cables, connectors and ear tips.  With the NE-700X I have not needed to upgrade or replace the stock tips with other brands to get good sound and isolation.  The increased quality and material did push the price up higher to $65 for the non-mic version and $79 for the mic version.  In my opinion this price is too low, but who am I to complain about low prices!
 
FIRST IMPRESSIONS:  When I first got them I took notes about what I heard and wrote, "On their own, just based on their sound alone, the new IEM sound very nice right out of the package without burn-in.  I am listening to Eva Cassidy "Ain't no Sunshine" and "The Letter" and I like what I hear.  Vocals are beautiful, and sound fairly transparent.  Detail and speed seems to be a little above the NE-7M/NE-6.  Guitars seem very crisp, pianos sing, cymbal ring.  Bass is not bloated nor recessed or light, with a good punch (such as when listening to Live At Blues Alley "Stormy Monday" or "Fine and Mellow").  Soundstage is not small, nor huge.  The stock tips are nicer than the ones I got with my NE-7M (where I had to use Shure E2c tips or Complys T400), so isolation is also better than with NE-7M.  Pushing the IEM in deeper gives me a nice boost to the bass, while increasing isolation, and yet not killing the highs.  I can play them quite loud with no distortion, clipping or signs of stress from the drivers."  That could have been all I wrote, and it would have said it all.
 
After that I gave them several hundred hours of burn-in and play time after that, listening un-amped and amped, trying to figure out where they stand in relation to the competition (such as the the $80 Sunrise Audio Xcape, and the $89 Brainwavz M3).  For listening I used my Macbook Pro iTunes > Amara Mini > uDAC-2 or HDP, Pico DAC/Slim Combo, or iPhone 4 with and without Pico Slim.  I listened to a wide variety of lossless 16/44 and 24/96 music as well as 160-320K MP3 and AAC.  
 
BASS:  I like the bass of the NE-700X, which is well balanced and has nice impact and presence without over-doing it or lacking.  It's speedier and more detailed than the bass in my C700, and more present and punchy than the RE-2, Maximo iMetal iP-HS5, NE-8, or IM716 (with 33 or 47 ohm pod).  I'd have to say the quality is also better than my NE-6/7M.  The Nuforce pick up some extra bass if I tighten my jaw closed, but my nose is always stuffy due to allergies and I have to breathe through my mouth, which slightly lessens the bass in the NE-700X to more normal levels.  If I insert the Nuforce into my ears as deep as they will go then the bass increases, but then the metal housing is hitting the opening of my ear canal and it becomes uncomfortable after an hour or two.  The bass is not as present as that of the Brainwavz M2 and M3, but most people would agree that the M2 bass is fairly boosted and the M3's is slightly boosted above normal.  I did my computer listening initially with the Nuforce uDAC-2, but with test tones I was finding the bass to be maybe 1-2 dB down at 25Hz and about 3-4 dB down at 20Hz. Switching to the Nuforce HDP I found bass extension to be very good and I stuck with the HDP or Pico DAC/Slim combo.  The uDAC-2 sounds great, but they have better synergy with some of my other gear.
 
MIDRANGE:  In comparison to the new MP4nation Brainwavz M3 the NE-700X are more transparent and natural sounding in the mids, with a little better controlled bass and bass detail.  The M3 are even warmer in comparison, but they had a slight "cupped hands" sound to the mids even after 30 hours of burn-in (at the time of my first comparisons, which improved by 100 hours but is almost still there).  The Nuforce mids are more laid back than the M3 or Xcape which are more forward sounding, but I don't think that the NE-700X mids could be called recessed.  I wanted to say that it's more like comparing the mids of the Triple.fi 10 Pro to the Monster Turbine Pro Gold which are more forward than the TF10 - but while the M3 sound more forward than the NE-700X, upon listening to test tones I found that the M3 were recessed at 2,500 - 3,150Hz where the NE-700 are flat.  Strange, but I think there is a lower midrange bloom in the M3 which make them seem more forward, while there is an upper-mids tilt to the Xcape which does that for them.  With test tones I am not hearing any big holes or peaks in the Nuforce frequency response anywhere, and they actually sound fairly flat and extended from 20Hz to the 16Khz limit of my 48 year old ears.  
 
TREBLE:  The NE-700X treble is fairly smooth, sparkly, and extended; without the excess grain or harshness that I heard for the first 100 hours on the Xcape.  While the Xcape improved greatly with 100-150 hours of burn-in, the NE-700 remain ahead of them in terms of a smooth and non-fatiguing treble.  My complaint about the Xcape treble is similar to my gripe with the Maximo iMetal, where you get a more Grado-esque forward upper mids and treble like in the SR-60, although the Xcape is maybe closer to the MS-1.  The M3 in comparison seem to feel a very slightly rolled off in the highs, but with a slight bump in the lower treble as part of a resonance or echo that added to the cupped hands coloration I sometimes hear.  There is an audible 8Khz peak in the M3 that the NE-700X doesn't have, and with the M3 the 12-16Khz tones are noticeably reduced in comparison to the Nuforce.  The Xcape also have a mild 8Khz peak, but unlike the M3 they are more extended to 16Khz like the Nuforce.  I'm not surprised that the NE-700X sounds better with audience applause than the others. 
 
MISC:  I also found the NE-700X to be a little better detailed and refined than the $79 Brainwavz M3.  Although the M3 are warmer and fuller sounding  which makes them great with rock music, they don't do as well with classical as the Nuforce.  The Nuforce seem to bridge the gap between the others as being more balanced sounding than M3 and fuller sounding than Xcape, plus they have the biggest soundstage among the Xcape or M3.  In comparison the Xcape is a little more analytical and drier sounding, while the M3 is a little more liquid sounding. 
 
SUMMARY:  Overall I found the Nuforce to be a very enjoyable sub-$100 earphone.  There are a couple of slightly more expensive earphones that I think the NE-700X are able to compete with, including the $80 Sunrise Audio Xcape, and the $79 Brainwavz M3 (and I'm sure many other IEM that I've never heard).  On a technical level, the Brainwavz M2 are not as capable performers, but they are almost as enjoyable because of how fun they are to play rock, electronic and new age music.  I would pick any of these three IEM over my numerous other sub $100 IEM, but I see myself reaching for the NE-700X and M3 the most out of the bunch.  However, my 13 year old son (HeadFanatic) has taken a liking to the Xcape, and keeps asking me if he can use them rather than his RE2 and RE3 prototype (using Macbook > uDAC-1 for source).
 
I enjoyed the Nuforce from a variety of sources and amps.  Where the Xcape benefitted my Pico Slim on the iPod to warm up and fill out the sound, NE-700X did that without needing to be amped.  Like the M3, the NE-700X are also more efficient and and louder at the same volume levels than the Xcape, and they work well un-amped, although the Xcape are more efficient than several other earphones that I have on hand.  The NE-700X don't have the slight treble tilt of the Xcape, nor the slight bass tilt of the M3 (or bass boost of the M2), but rather tend to fall right in the middle - although this might put them in the "Jack of all trades, master of none" category for some listeners.  They're a little more laid back in the mids than the M3 or Xcape, with slightly less bass although having a little more bass than the Xcape (which aren't lacking either), and it would be nice if the mids were just a little more engaging like the M3 or Xcape.  While the M3 (and M2) have some extra low end power over the others, the Nuforce and Xcape have enough bass and also respond well to bass boost as well.
 
In terms of sonic characteristics, the NE-700X have more in common with the Sunrise Audio Sw-Xcape than the M3.  The two have similar levels of detail which  bests the M3; but the Xcape brings the mids a little more forward than the Nuforce and brings out background detail a little better, while the NE-700X is a little more laid back in the mids and gives you more of an "audience point of view" rather than "on stage" like the Xcape.  In terms of sound signature and tone (not performance), The NE-700X is different from the Xcape in the same way that the Westone 2 is different from the the Fischer Audio DBA-02, with a little warmer, fuller, smoother tone.  Both are good performers, but bring a different perspective to the music and may appeal to different tastes.  Likewise, the M2/M3 would be more like the Monster Turbine Pro Gold in it's bassy, rich and rounded liquid character that gives up a little detail in exchange.  It goes without saying that none of these $65-$80 earphones are on the same level as the above mentioned high-end phones; but they don't fare too badly in comparison, and beat all the other sub $100 IEM I've tried or owned.  I can enjoy any of them depending on my mood, source and amp, and encourage you to give them a try.
 



Is this one to be suitable with classical music?
 
Mar 26, 2012 at 12:44 AM Post #208 of 235


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Is this one to be suitable with classical music?


I would say yes.  It has decent depth to the soundstage, and the strong bass helps recreate the rumble of the large venue, and they give a nice bite to the strings for some good texture.
 
Apr 11, 2012 at 6:44 AM Post #209 of 235
I have been using NuForce products for a long time and simply love their price-quality ratio, I've owned the NE7m and NE700X and both of them sound just as good, if not better, than $100+ IEMs.
 
I guess their competitive pricing means their build quality is not the best, a couple of my different NuForce models broke less than a year from purchase, however, this is greatly countered-acted by Nforce's INCREDIBLE customer service!
 
Here's a couple of stories:
 
  • When I first bought my NE7s in 2009/10 the right IEM stopped working after a few months, I wrote to NuForce and they sent over some brand new headphones and simply asked for me to send the broken ones back. NuForce paid for all the shipping.
  • I then gave my old NE7-ms to my wife, and they're still going strong, as I upgraded to the new NE700x IEMs last October, a few months later I moved to the UK for work, a couple of days ago the jack on the NE700Xs started shortening out, I wrote back to NuForce to see if there was a way I could repair them myself as I love the headphones... this was their reply:
 
Dear Christopher,

We apologize for the inconvenience.  We will go ahead and ship you a replacement NE-700X.  You do not have to send the defective headphones back to NuForce because of the return shipping costs.  We will get these shipped ASAP.  Thank you and...

Best regards,
Cherri
NuForce Consumer Support

 
I could kiss Cherri right now!
 
For this reason I am a NuForce customer for life!
 
Jul 2, 2012 at 5:31 PM Post #210 of 235
Hi, I have had for some time of NuForce NE6 and are very satisfied, these days I'm trying the Creative EP 630 and I think very similar to the NuForce although as I look better clarity the NuForce.
Anyway now I need to buy some excellent headphones and I was thinking these NuForce 700x, only that some consider the Creative EP 630 as the best value for money and are a little confused ... Costing as much as possible that the Creative sound better? I listen to all types of Muisca, very uplifting / orchestral trance, dance, Vangelis soundtracks, pop ...
 

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