[goodyfresh]

Sure, but it would be expensive and inherently large.

If I'm not mistaken, don't some of HiFiMan's DAP's use R-2R DAC's in them?

 

[Max Choiral]

Sure, but it would be expensive and inherently large.

Not really that big

 
Review: http://www.headfonia.com/tento-porta-dac-1866-all-your-bases/

 

[Max Choiral]

  If I'm not mistaken, don't some of HiFiMan's DAP's use R-2R DAC's in them?

Most of them used r2r in the past. 601, 601le, 602, 603, 801 etc.

 

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If I'm not mistaken, don't some of HiFiMan's DAP's use R-2R DAC's in them?

Not really that big

I was thinking of the HiFiMan HM801 and some others that are thicker. The HM602 and 601LE are some other options of HiFiMan DAPs that use R-2R.

Looking at the functionality with the amp modules being interchangeable with the X7 it may not fit within FiiO's design principle for the unit. However, I'm a HUGE convert to R-2R so if they can implement the DAC properly within the desired design while maintaining desired battery life I wish them all the luck. I know I'd grab one immediately.

 

[goodyfresh]

I was thinking of the HiFiMan HM801 and some others that are thicker. The HM602 and 601LE are some other options of HiFiMan DAPs that use R-2R.

Looking at the functionality with the amp modules being interchangeable with the X7 it may not fit within FiiO's design principle for the unit. However, I'm a HUGE convert to R-2R so if they can implement the DAC properly (you need two DAC chips for stereo) within the desired design while maintaining desired battery life I wish them all the luck. I know I'd grab one immediately.

Yeah see everybody says that R-2R sounds way more natural.  But I know that it also tends to be more expensive.  I'm kind of wondering if there's any DAC out there for under $400 or 450 which uses R-2R, takes USB input, and performs really well.

 

[Max Choiral]

Looking at the functionality with the amp modules being interchangeable with the X7 it may not fit within FiiO's design principle for the unit. However, I'm a HUGE convert to R-2R so if they can implement the DAC properly (you need two DAC chips for stereo) within the desired design while maintaining desired battery life I wish them all the luck. I know I'd grab one immediately.

One chip will be enough as long as the implementation is pretty good; will be ok with even 6 hours of battery life. But I highly doubt there will be a chance with r-2r interchangeable module
Unfortunately, today no one uses r-2r technology anymore for producing portable gear

 

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Yeah see everybody says that R-2R sounds way more natural.  But I know that it also tends to be more expensive.  I'm kind of wondering if there's any DAC out there for under $400 or 450 which uses R-2R, takes USB input, and performs really well.

http://penonaudio.com/music-mp3-players/Portable/HiFiMAN-HM601LE

http://penonaudio.com/music-mp3-players/Portable/HiFiMAN-HM603s

 

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One chip will be enough as long as the implementation is pretty good; will be ok with even 6 hours of battery life. But I highly doubt there will be a chance with r-2r interchangeable module
Unfortunately, today no one uses r-2r technology anymore for producing portable gear

D'oh. I edited my post.

FiiO usually shoots for around 10 hours battery life. It all depends on what the company wants to market.

 

[Max Choiral]

I was only thinking of the PCM1704UK, and not considered others like the Phillips TDA1543. D'oh. I edited my post.

FiiO usually shoots for around 10 hours battery life. It all depends on what the company wants to market.

Tento uses single AD1866

Of course, but consumers might affect the process. After all, everything is done in order to satisfy our demands
 
 

 
Yeah see everybody says that R-2R sounds way more natural. 

I can tell for sure that when r-2r is done properly - it's an unbelievably musical thing

 

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Tento uses single AD1866
Of course, but consumers might affect the process. After all, everything is done in order to satisfy our demands


I can tell for sure that when r-2r is done properly - it's an unbelievably musical thing

Just read up on the Tento. What a very cool unit. Granted it's only 16bit but I wouldn't put much stock in that given the implementation looks solid. I agree that if FiiO could properly implement a r-2r DAC while being able to use the amp modules for X7 they'd have one very sweet unit.

 

[goodyfresh]

Just read up on the Tento. What a very cool unit. Granted it's only 16bit but I wouldn't put much stock in that given the implementation looks solid. I agree that if FiiO could properly implement a r-2r DAC while being able to use the amp modules for X7 they'd have one very sweet unit.

If you're that into the audio-science I'm sure you know that 16-bit vs. 24-bit doesn't matter anyway.

 

[wega03]

I saw a picture of fiio q1 on Instagram published by lieven, Joe Bloggs what can you say about that DAC/amp ??

 

[nmatheis]

I saw a picture of fiio q1 on Instagram published by lieven, Joe Bloggs what can you say about that DAC/amp ??

Fiio's renaming their amps. Looks like a next-gen E11+DAC to me.

 

[wega03]

And here is the picture

 

[wega03]

Fiio's renaming their amps. Looks like a next-gen E11+DAC to me.

But this is a DAC/Amp, not just Amp