[mordy]

Hi Howie13,
 
I finally got my Russian Svetlana 6J32P (EF86 equivalent) tubes. They sound quite nice paired with the EL12N. The only con is that I need to turn up the volume much higher than I usually do. This is probably due to the fact that these tubes only draw 0.2A, and the other driver tubes I use are in the 0.6A-1.2A range.
 
Do you have any recommendations for EF86 tubes and which power tubes they pair best with?

 

[HOWIE13]

  Hi Howie13,
 
I finally got my Russian Svetlana 6J32P (EF86 equivalent) tubes. They sound quite nice paired with the EL12N. The only con is that I need to turn up the volume much higher than I usually do. This is probably due to the fact that these tubes only draw 0.2A, and the other driver tubes I use are in the 0.6A-1.2A range.
 
Do you have any recommendations for EF86 tubes and which power tubes they pair best with?

Nothing really new to report, Mordy.
 
The two I've tried, RFT (branded Zaerix), and Mullard (branded Amperex), both also required an hour or two more on the vol pot, though with no detriment to sound.
 
I preferred the Mullard as it was clearer and more dynamic. With both I used either spez or EL12N as powers. They both sounded similar-good stage, nice and euphonic-just how we like it- LOL.
 
There was an occasional hum, lasting a few seconds, every 10 minutes or so with the Mullards-I suspect it's just microphonics as I can re-create the hum by flicking Elise's case with my finger-it didn't bother me as it's barely audible at all when music is playing-but I've read that microphonics is something to be aware of with these tubes.
 
Here's the link to the Amperex/ Mullards if you were thinking of trying them:
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EF86-AMPEREX-HOLLAND-NOS-VALVE-TUBE-LC29-/262360600836?hash=item3d15e91104:g:04kAAOSwgApW-6u0
 
 

 

 

[Wreckgar7]

@mordy, IF I remeber correctly uve been using EL6 tubes right? Do they use the same adapters as El3n? Soundimpressions?

 

[mordy]

Hi W7,
 
Yes, the adapters are identical to those used for the EL3N. The sound is very smooth with a very even distribution across the FR - very sweet, detailed and non fatiguing. They sound like very well behaved EL12 tubes.
 
Unfortunately the EL6 tubes are very rare, hard to find, and expensive. IMHO, in the long run you would be just as well served by the EL12N that is in good supply (check European eBay sites) and not expensive.

 

[Wreckgar7]

Hi W7,

Yes, the adapters are identical to those used for the EL3N. The sound is very smooth with a very even distribution across the FR - very sweet, detailed and non fatiguing. They sound like very well behaved EL12 tubes.

Unfortunately the EL6 tubes are very rare, hard to find, and expensive. IMHO, in the long run you would be just as well served by the EL12N that is in good supply (check European eBay sites) and not expensive.

Great, thanks for The info i already have a pair of El12N and a pair of El12 telefunken, love The sound, but it seems i might be able to snatch a pair of Tungsram EL6 for under 50 dollars, and since i own The adapters already its definitly worth a try

 

[mordy]

Hi W7,
 
Definitively worth trying - let me know how they sound.
 
I have three used ones: one Tungsram, one Philips and one Valvo. They all measure about 70%. I use them with EL12N and EL11 as drivers.

 

[angpsi]

Hi guys,I know something's been mentioned in the past, I just can't seem to locate the discussion: can someone clarify on the differences between these Mullard CV2984 / 6080 and Mullard 6080?
 

 

 
How about sonic differences with other iterations, e.g. this one? 


Finally, anyone have experience with the GE 6AS7ga?

 
Thanks!

 

[Oskari]

Hi guys,I know something's been mentioned in the past, I just can't seem to locate the discussion: can someone clarify on the differences between these Mullard CV2984 / 6080 and Mullard 6080?







How about sonic differences with other iterations, e.g. this one? 

Same tube, different branding. The CVs were for UK gov.

 

[HOWIE13]

  Hi guys,I know something's been mentioned in the past, I just can't seem to locate the discussion: can someone clarify on the differences between these Mullard CV2984 / 6080 and Mullard 6080?
 

 

 
How about sonic differences with other iterations, e.g. this one? 


Finally, anyone have experience with the GE 6AS7ga?

 
Thanks!

 
I think I may have been part of that earlier discussion but haven't a clue where to find it.
 
Anyway, the blue box version was very microphonic and hence difficult to enjoy, whilst the CV Government version was perfect with all the characteristics of Mullard 6080 sound that has been discussed many times on this thread. They get very hot.
 
That GE I think sounded very similar to the Sylvania 6AS7 I had and it's sweet and a bit lean in the bass. Would suit a warm set-up. Nothing remarkable though.

 

[Oskari]

Anyway, the blue box version was very microphonic

Probably just bad luck but there's a chance that there was more testing on the CVs.

 

[HOWIE13]

Probably just bad luck but there's a chance that there was more testing on the CVs.

Yes hard to know-both the blue ones were the same microphony. I don't know whether microphony was something the Government deliberately wanted to avoid in their equipment and tested for it. Doubtful though.

 

[mordy]

Hi angpsi,
 
As a rule I think that the consensus on this forum was that the best sounding 6080 type tubes were the GEC, Bendix and Tung Sol 7236 tubes with a honorable mention to the RCA 6080.
 
I have a number of 6080/6AS7GA tubes, including the Mullard, Bendix, RCA, Sylvania, GE, Philips, Tung Sol, Chatham etc and with the exception of the Bendix I do not listen to them any more.

 

[UntilThen]

Good to hear discussions of recommended power tubes returning to this thread. 

 
I have Bendix 6080wb slotted, RCA 6080, Mullard CV2984/6080, GE 6AS7GA, RCA 6AS7GA, TS 5998, Cetron and TS 7236, Chatham 6520, RCA 6AS7G in my inventory.
 
Nothing wrong with any of them except some sounded too warm and dark for my liking - on Euforia. Mind you, the same dark and warm power tubes sounded very good on La Figaro 339.
The dark and warm power tubes are GE 6AS7GA, RCA 6AS7GA and RCA 6AS7G. 
 
I've been using Sylvania 6sn7wgt and Mullard CV2984 lately and really love the combination.... with my HD650.

 

[UntilThen]

I have been getting several private messages of new Elise owners telling me how they love their amps with their headphones. I can only urge you to share your impressions here on this thread. If you own Elise, this is your thread and we would love to hear from you. 

 

[pctazhp]

I know some people use HD600 with Elise, and Focal Utopia has been mentioned here. I thought some might be interested in this well written comparison between the two: http://www.head-fi.org/t/811273/focal-utopia-a-little-elear-impressions-and-discussion/3240#post_13440266