[pctazhp]

Hey pct...

Here is a Phoenix dealer selling tube DAC's...

AUDIO VIDEO CHOICES, Inc.
601 E Indian School Rd, Suite 200
Phoenix, AZ 85012
(602) 265-1628
Open Tues - Fri 10am-6pm, Sat 10am-4pm
(Closed Sun+Mon)

Thanks. I'll check it out )))

 

[UntilThen]

  Good price. Looks like mine. I'd go for it if I were you.

Alright I bought the tube. It's been a while since I bought a tube. It better be the holy grail as you said.  

 

[ostewart]

 
Interesting that Beyer has just introduced the DT 1990 Pro. Announcement like 4 days ago. I regard the T1 as Beyer top end headphone and sure sounded it. I had the DT880 Pro before but clearly the T1 sounded much better to me.
 
DT1990 Pro is 250 ohms and 102db. Should be just perfect for Elise. Keen to hear your thoughts of the T1 G2 and DT1990 Pro on Elise.
 
I would suggest an upgraded 6SN7 and 6AS7 for your Elise. Sylvania 6SN7gtb and Chatham 6520 is a big step up from stock tubes and is still reasonably priced.

 
You should grab a listen to the DT 1990 when you can, they sound great out of Elise, I say they are halfway between T1 and T1 2nd Generation, slightly less refined maybe but a very flat and neutral sound, with excellent detail retrieval and no famous Beyer peak (DT 880's anyone)
 
I'll let you know how the T1 2nd Generation pair with it.

 

[UntilThen]

   
You should grab a listen to the DT 1990 when you can, they sound great out of Elise, I say they are halfway between T1 and T1 2nd Generation, slightly less refined maybe but a very flat and neutral sound, with excellent detail retrieval and no famous Beyer peak (DT 880's anyone)
 
I'll let you know how the T1 2nd Generation pair with it.

Sounds promising but it's still early days. They are not in Australia yet. I have the T1 original and love it with Elise.
 
However you need to listen to a modded HD650. 3 extra pieces of Dynamite (Dynamat) as discovered by DL has improved the resolution and impact and shattered any veil. 
 
I posted a picture in the other Elise thread. post #12708

 

[pctazhp]

 
Alright I bought the tube. It's been a while since I bought a tube. It better be the holy grail as you said.  

In the words of our two illustrious presidential candidates: I never said anything I've ever said before 

 

[pctazhp]

The Holy Grail of love songs:
 

 

[UntilThen]

Johnny sounds simply beautiful even on my Samsung s7 edge.

 

[connieflyer]

Good Morning,,, or afternoon,,evening as it may be for you, here is one for you @UntilThen,  you can take a nap now..
 
 
 

 

[connieflyer]

@UntilThen  I am certain you have heard Jackson Berkey before, think Mannheim Steamroller, yep one and the same. Accompliced I think.  Just set up my Sony Hap-S1  hd server, and it is a very nice peice of equipment. Just started the file transfer of all the music files from the computer with a remote app on a tablet, I may never leave my chair again!  Talk about shiftless, I could easily become a politician!   http://www.sony.com/electronics/audio-components/hap-s1

 

[hypnos1]

Hey @pctazhp and @UntilThen, all this talk of HOLY GRAIL is music to my ears...and I'm sure you can guess what comes next, lol!

- yes, my very own version of it (well, one at
least!)...ie.................
 
.....
 
ECC31/GEC CV2523/T1.....fed by a tube DAC, of course!

...This combination has Elise singing like a Nightingale could only dream of LOL...

...CHEERS!...

 

[pctazhp]

  Hey @pctazhp and @UntilThen, all this talk of HOLY GRAIL is music to my ears...and I'm sure you can guess what comes next, lol!

- yes, my very own version of it (well, one at
least!)...ie.................
 
.....ECC31/GEC CV2523/T1.....fed by a tube DAC, of course!

...This combination has Elise singing like a Nightingale could only dream of LOL...

...CHEERS!...

Very unfair of you to bring in your "unobtainian" power tubes into this discussion. 

 

[Oskari]

Unobtanium befits holy grail.

 

[pctazhp]

I guess the most important question is whether the Elise is the Holy Grail. It's my HG because it is the best I have heard, but I haven't heard any of the big buck amps. Will be interesting to read reports from London CanJam, but for the foreseeable future I'll be sticking with Elise.
 
I preface the following remarks by fully admitting I am an electronic ignoramus and so this is just uneducated babble. It seems to me that the internals of a tube amp must first be designed to keep distortion below audible levels and as faithfully as possible maintain accuracy of the waveform from input to output.
 
It also must accommodate power tubes that can drive without any problems the headphones most likely to be used with the amp AND  accommodate a combination of tubes that introduce just the right amount of even order harmonic distortion to create a listening experience that its owners find both pleasant and more like a live performance. Perhaps it also has accommodates tubes that will alter the FR just enough to provide a more pleasing and "realistic" experience than a totally flat frequency response.
 
If any of that has any validity, it seems to me Elise is a really good tube amp.

 

[hypnos1]

  Very unfair of you to bring in your "unobtainian" power tubes into this discussion. 

 
And you thought I was a nice guy, pct!!!

...must admit I am indeed being a tad cruel - but with reference to O's words below, these days one needs to be somewhat of a "Crusader" in order to hunt down and capture such glories LOL...but they are out there in no-man's land - somewhere!! "Simply" (?!!) follow @mordy's mantra for said search, and the journey can indeed sometimes bear wonderful fruit...

...
 

Unobtanium befits holy grail.

 
Always spot on, O...

...

 

[pctazhp]

@hypnos1   I've been chasing holy grails all my life, so all is good