boatheelmusic
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It 's always good to know we can be happier with a product that costs twice as much with fewer features ...........
So, I received the Dangerous Source today. I should mention that in between the Emotiva DC-1 and the Dangerous, I tried a Burson HA-160DS amp/dac combo that I bought off of this site. I also got a pair of Audeze LCD-2 cans and some HD800's. For the past few weeks I was listening to these headphones on the Emotiva and then the Burson (primarily the Burson). I always felt as if they never sounded quite right - not the way they had when I auditioned them in the store. Good - but not great.
Well as I mentioned - I got the Dangerous Source today. HOLY CRAP ON A CRACKER!!! This thing is seriously amazing. I know in Gary's test, he determined that the DC-1 and the Source were "indistinguishable" - and I believe him, because he was using the DAC only, NOT the built in amp. He did mention that he much preferred the headphone output of the source to the DC-1, but I can't overstate how huge the difference is here. Not just between the DC-1 and the source, but the Burson as well. This thing completely eclipses both of them. Clarity is about the same, but the depth of the sound, the fullness of the sound across the spectrum is vastly improved. Most surprisingly to me - the soundstage is at LEAST double what it was on either of the other two units with the LCD-2's, and a bit wider with the HD800 as well. This is contrary to what Gary experienced (he said he felt the soundstage was smaller) - but he must have been using a better separate amp)
It even tamed the highs of the HD800, which were previously so shrill that I noticed I would physically cringe while listening to them. I could only handle a song or two on them before my ears were hurting, even at modest volumes.
Neddless to say - I am sold!
It 's always good to know we can be happier with a product that costs twice as much with fewer features ...........
Well, I value a remote, an internal power supply over a wall wart, a sample rate indicator so I know what's going on, XLR's, etc.....
It 's always good to know we can be happier with a product that costs twice as much with fewer features ...........
"It 's always good to know we can be happier with a product that costs twice as much with fewer features ..........."
It's good to know that we can have a meaningful conversation about different products, but boatheelmusic will be a know-it-all (while knowing very little), shill for Emotiva nuisance no matter the situation.
Also, "more features" does not mean better quality. In fact, most people know that some of the best products out there do the bare minimum - but do it extremely well. That said, I think the point about the DC-1 having more features than the Source is very strange, as it is obvious that the Source has FAR more features than the DC-1. However, the DC-1 does offer a few features which the Source does not, and if the things you mentioned are what are most important to you - then fine.
However, my main concern is sound quality. To my ears, the Source bends the DC-1 over its knee in that regard. I also like 1/4" headphone jacks (and the ones on the source seat so positively that they are almost locking jacks - which I love). The ability to power two full size headphones simultaneously (I was listening to my HD800 last night, while my wife listened to the LCD-2, and we had the volume just past half way for a good listening level) is also something that I appreciate. I am also concerned with build quality. The Emo appears to be built well, but in my experience is not (granted, my sample size is only 2 - but 100% of them were faulty in some way). My sample size with the Source is only one, but it does appear to be very well built, and it has no issues yet. I also like the portability, which I will likely be taking advantage of.
Zoom - I would definitely give the Source a try. I have only tried it with the HD800 and the LCD-2, but to me it pairs very well with the LCD-2, and fairly well with the HD800 (certainly much better than the DC-1 or Burson did). It definitely has more power than either of them, and sounds fantastic to me. I actually didn't care for the styling in pictures, I thought it would clash with the brushed aluminum look of my other stereo equipment, but now that I have it here I think it looks great as well.
I'm glad you found a good pairing! Although, I am starting to think that you might not prefer the Source - it is definitely on the warmer side of neutral. As I listen to it more I can also tell that it doesn't have some of the "crispness" of the Burson - which makes it much less cringe worthy, but possibly at the expense of clarity. However, I have listened to the full gamut of genres, and find it to play everything extremely well, even stuff that I only listen to for the sound quality alone - like classical or opera.
I have a PM series integrated amp, it is the Marantz PM7000. I have to say that the source sounds better, and I think I even preferred the Burson and Emotiva over the Marantz. It just sounded slightly blunted in certain areas in comparison. However, my model is 10 years old, so the new ones might sound better. Also, that was playing a CD directly to the Marantz and comparing it to the .flac file through the DAC's. I haven't tried hooking up a DAC to the Marantz and comparing the sound that way.
LOL I might still end up picking a DC-1 as I need a DAC for computer use (movies and shows).