Custom Edition Darkvoice THA336FM arrived [56K warning]
Aug 27, 2006 at 5:29 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 50

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I decided to go ahead and branch this off from the main Darkvoice thread, since I think it warrants its own now. For those of you not in the know, I've spent the last several weeks coming up with ideas and parts on how to take an old version Darkvoice, and mod it to be the most synergistic thing possible with the Audio-Technica W5000s. The result is the Darkvoice THA336FM, which besides the chassis and general circuit layout, bears little resemblance to the original anymore. I won't be able to use my W5000s for a week, so I'm going to refrain from posting any detailed impressions here yet.

I'll start with the pictures, then move on to explaining all the mods that have done on it, in much more detail than in the original Darkvoice thread (which was just half-awake ramblings late at night
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). After that there will be a comparison to with the Little Dot 2+, and once I get my W5000s back in service, a comparison with the M³ as well as more detailed impressions of the new Darkvoice itself.

So stay tuned!

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Leftover parts:




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Side-by-side with the LD2+:

 
Aug 27, 2006 at 6:37 PM Post #2 of 50
Let me be the first to say that the silver color is DEAD SEKSSAY
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Please don't spare us of impressions!!
 
Aug 27, 2006 at 7:11 PM Post #4 of 50
software customizable crossfeed is where it's at
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Aug 28, 2006 at 2:44 AM Post #11 of 50
Volume Potentiometer

One of my biggest surprises about the stock Darkvoice design is the volume pot. It's difficult to see, because it is mounted upside down on a small PCB, but I came to learn that it is using a linear pot, rather than a log (audio) pot. A linear pot!? Yes, a linear pot can be made to act somewhat similar to a log pot with a couple resistors, but there is nothing of the sort in the Darkvoice. That explains why the volume hit the roof when the knob was turned near the 9'o'clock position, even with high impedance headphones. I had two main options for the upgraded replacement: an Alps RK27, or a stepped attenuator. The stepped attenuator is the technically better upgrade, but there were two problems with implementing it in the Darkvoice: lack of space, and not knowing what the necessary attenuation range would be until I was completely done. So I went with the Alps RK27 "Blue Velvet" pot, and wired directly to the pins, foregoing the PCB for the original pot. Installing it was no problem, but there is only one millimeter of clearance between the back of the Alps and the front tube socket.

Between the other mods that have some attenuation of the signal, and the usage of a proper audio pot, I can now make the widest possible use of the volume knob when using the W5000s. Previously I had only about 15 degrees of movement from too quiet to too loud, I now have about 180 degrees of movement from quiet to loud.


Crossfeed

I've always been a fan of crossfeed since I first heard it, and had already incorporated a crossfeed module into the last amp I built, so adding crossfeed to the Darkvoice was an obvious mod. Not to mention I had an additional switch added to the front panel, for the original "Fitz mod", that needed a new purpose (this was before I was planning on making a new front panel completely). I decided to play it safe and use the same modified Linkwitz crossfeed by Chu Moy that I've used before and know I like, and set it up to have the switch toggle between off and high crossfeed. I didn't even consider using a premade PCB for it, because I knew I would have no room to securely mount it where it wouldn't short against anything. I decided to make the entire crossfeed module point-to-point, with the capacitors serving as the foundation for the whole assembly. The parts chosen were Solen tin foil capacitors and Vishay/Dale RN series resistors. I underestimated the size of the capacitors, but after trying out numerous designs on paper, came up with what you see in the Darkvoice now. This was quite possibly the most difficult mod in the entire amp, given the number in interlinked components in a tight space, with no easy way to assemble them in a linear fashion. The results are more than worth the extra hassle this caused, but I would definitely think twice before doing a point-to-point crossfeed in the future.

With the W5000, the crossfeed has proven that it deserves its place in the Darkvoice. While the W5000s do not sound as much like closed headphones as some others do, there is still room for improvement when an instrument is played heavily or entirely in one channel. When the crossfeed is turned on during one of these recordings, the entire sound becomes much more transparent and natural, and the feeling of pressure on your ear disappears. Quite often it is not a subtle difference at all, but a drastic change for the better.


Cathode Bypass (AKA The original "Fitz mod")

This is the mod that started it all. I originally came up with the idea for this while trying to reduce the hum I was getting from a very expensive tube I bought, and was going to be damned if I didn't make it quiet. I tried out several values of capacitors on the input tube's cathode until I found 100uF to be the sweet spot between reducing hum and increasing gain. This was originally on a switch to allow it to be taken out of the circuit (a bypassed bypass...), due to my uncertainty about its effects on sound quality using the cheap caps I had at the time. In the current version, I'm still using 100uF caps, but have upgraded from the cheap ones I had on hand to Nichicon KZ Muse caps.

This is single-handedly the cheapest and easiest cure for humming tubes on the Darkvoice. I have several tubes that used to have unbearable levels of hum, due to the AC heater supply used in the Darkvoice, but now I have to strain to notice anything even when the music is off.
 
Aug 28, 2006 at 2:53 AM Post #12 of 50
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Originally Posted by SonicDawg
Let me be the first to say that the silver color is DEAD SEKSSAY
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Please don't spare us of impressions!!



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Originally Posted by BennyBoy
Beautiful! You should be very proud.
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Originally Posted by kramer5150
Wow!!! Just.... WOW!!!

waiting for your impressions!!
I love P2P circuits!!!



Thanks!
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I'm really happy with how it's turned out, for what was originally a set of random mods turned into an impulse rebuild of the whole amp. When I first powered it up at 85% done, I was honestly expecting the thing to blow up in my face and become an expensive puff of smoke.


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Originally Posted by nelda
I'm speechless.
That big tube alone.....



The 6AS7G sure is a pretty tube, isn't it?


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Originally Posted by TheSloth
Which crossfeed is the crossfeed you used? Lack of crossfeed is what has kept me away from tube amps...


I used the modified Linkwitz crossfeed by Chu Moy. It can easily be built into a small enclosure to sit in-line with any amp if you wanted, I just like to incorporate as many things in one chassis as I can.


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Originally Posted by phergus_25
Thats my LD.. it dosent look near as sexy when compared to your pimped out DV...
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Yeah but your LD doesn't have a hood ornament, that's the real problem.
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Originally Posted by kramer5150
Any way you could compare it to a stock PPX?


Nope, not unless you wanna give me one to compare it with
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Aug 28, 2006 at 3:00 AM Post #13 of 50
And why are there no detailed impressions yet? Well I only had about a day with it, and that was mainly comparing it to the LD2+. I'll give you guys all the impressions you want in a week, once my headphones don't look like this anymore:



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Aug 28, 2006 at 10:35 PM Post #14 of 50
seeing the w5000s in that state makes me hurt....deeply....
 
Aug 28, 2006 at 11:19 PM Post #15 of 50
That's what comes instantly to mind. The next thing that comes to mind is "must have", but admittedly that's the greed in me coming out. That is some seriously nice work you've done there. I seriously wish I had the space and skills to make those kinds of changes to an amp. But alas it's a stock life for me, with the exception of tube rolling.

Thanks for the pics and info.
 

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