Chord Mojo(1) DAC-amp ☆★►FAQ in 3rd post!◄★☆
Jan 28, 2016 at 5:11 AM Post #10,126 of 42,765
Just got the budget phone (moto g 2nd Gen) today and tested it with the Mojo, it is inferior to the dx80 and to the Note 5, in sound, (I was hoping it would be at least as good so I can just stick with it a source for Mojo) I used onkyo app, the paid one with upsampling OFF.

So I guess I'll be returning the moto.

Really want a budget source for the Mojo. The dx80 is ok but pops and clicks, the note 5 sounds better than the dx80 but it'd too big and it's my main phone.

I used to think source didn't matter to mojo but it does, sound is changed with different sources used. For my equipment the note 5 pairs better than dx80 maybe because dx80 has to be paired via coaxial?

Idk what to do... Really like the way it sounds with note 5


Cheap second hand AK100 and sysconcepts cable. All FLAC music. DSD works as well but does make my AK100 a touch laggy
 
Jan 28, 2016 at 6:29 AM Post #10,128 of 42,765
Damn.
 
Just out of the blue whilst charging (been on charge for 30 minutes), my Mojo has started to coil whine and won't stop unless I take the power cable out.  
 
Usually the scratchy loud coil whine only appears for 5 seconds after plugging the mojo on to charge then stops. This time the coil whine won't go away.
 
As soon as I plug in usb power the coil whine starts for its initial 5 seconds, as usual, sometimes stops for a brief second, starts again - this time it changes pitch until it's no longer scratchy but more of a whistle and continues to fluctuate in pitch from being a kettle type whistle to a faint electrical noise but still loud enough to be annoying.  
 
I can hear it from at least a meter away with my computer fans in the background. 
 
I have tried different usb plugs and a different cable, and plugging it into my Nvidia shield Usb out, no difference.  I thought the coil whine noise during boot was a bit strange when i first got it, obviously was defective to begin with.
 
Along with the included micro Usb cable being loose and not making a solid connection - It breaks up with little play (which I blame the port, not the cable) I have no choice other than to return it to Amazon.
 
Fingers crossed that its replacement is fine. 
 
Take a listen (recorded with a UMIK 1 mic) 
 
WARNING - May trigger tinnitus
 
Flac - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20406996/Head%20fi/Chord%20Mojo%20noise.flac
Mp3 - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20406996/Head%20fi/Chord%20Mojo%20noise.mp3
 
You can hear my computer fans in the background. 
 
Jan 28, 2016 at 7:02 AM Post #10,130 of 42,765
Everyone should do themselves a favour and buy an Apple iPhone charger, no reports so far with charging issues with those, mine is quiet as a mouse.

 
Will dig mine out of the loft now and test.  I've been using an Ipad charger and my Shield Tv up until now.
 
Edit - 1 amp iphone 6 charger = no difference to my ipad charger, same coil whine.  
Edit 2 - With the 1amp Apple charger The Mojo is now making a ticking noise.  Will upload audio file. 
Edit 3 - Turned power off and on, ticking noise has gone, coil whine is back. 
 
Flac - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20406996/Head%20fi/Mojo%20ticking.flac
Mp3 - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20406996/Head%20fi/Mojo%20ticking.mp3
 
Jan 28, 2016 at 8:08 AM Post #10,131 of 42,765
 
Everyone should do themselves a favour and buy an Apple iPhone charger, no reports so far with charging issues with those, mine is quiet as a mouse.

 
Will dig mine out of the loft now and test.  I've been using an Ipad charger and my Shield Tv up until now.
 
Edit - 1 amp iphone 6 charger = no difference to my ipad charger, same coil whine.  
Edit 2 - With the 1amp Apple charger The Mojo is now making a ticking noise.  Will upload audio file. 
Edit 3 - Turned power off and on, ticking noise has gone, coil whine is back. 
 
Flac - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20406996/Head%20fi/Mojo%20ticking.flac
Mp3 - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20406996/Head%20fi/Mojo%20ticking.mp3


What cable are you using? Try running it with the bundled cable if you are not using it already.
 
Charger and cable combos I have tried: http://www.head-fi.org/t/784602/chord-mojo-the-official-thread-please-read-the-3rd-post/9810#post_12277858
 
I am using Anker PowerPort 5 with the Anker PowerLine cable with my Mojo.
 
Jan 28, 2016 at 8:13 AM Post #10,132 of 42,765
   
Will dig mine out of the loft now and test.  I've been using an Ipad charger and my Shield Tv up until now.
 
Edit - 1 amp iphone 6 charger = no difference to my ipad charger, same coil whine.  
Edit 2 - With the 1amp Apple charger The Mojo is now making a ticking noise.  Will upload audio file. 
Edit 3 - Turned power off and on, ticking noise has gone, coil whine is back. 
 
Flac - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20406996/Head%20fi/Mojo%20ticking.flac
Mp3 - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20406996/Head%20fi/Mojo%20ticking.mp3


Interesting! maybe the Apple is rotten and it wants to become an orchard!
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p.s. I thought the Mp3 sounded better than the Flac.
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Jan 28, 2016 at 9:40 AM Post #10,137 of 42,765
  Having a problem!
 
I don't know if it's the Mojo, or JRiver, or one interacting with the other. However music just stops playing.
 
The Mojo lights are on.
JRiver is showing as playing.
There is just no sound.
 
It has happened on three separate occasions. I am currently testing by only using Media Go to rule if it's JRiver.
 
  1. The first time was worst as it happened a few times all with about ten minutes. It happened when I pressed either volume button. (I think I was using JRiver at the time.) Had to restart the Mojo each time.
 
  1. The second time I wasn't touching the Mojo. Was just listening and googling probably.
 
  1. The third time I was not touching the Mojo either. (Was using JRiver this time.) Restarting Mojo and still no music. Restarting JRiver as well, got it going that time.
 
I am hoping someone can enlighten whether it's the Mojo or JRiver, having had it happen to them.

 
OK so no-one else has this problem. That's not good. (Well it's good for everyone else though.)
 
Jan 28, 2016 at 9:50 AM Post #10,138 of 42,765
No that simply is not correct! A single ended design, don't right with a large enough voltage swing will easily out perform a balanced output. Balanced designs are used by some designers to overcome inherent limitations within designs. Usually to overcome substrate noise on the chip that shouldn't be there or to increase the output voltage swing of their amplifiers. We don't suffer those limitation or problems so we don't need a dodgy fix for them. Our measurements clearly show this. Sorry to burst you bubble man.



Hahaha lol.
 
Jan 28, 2016 at 9:57 AM Post #10,140 of 42,765
   
 
all also hiss?
 
 
tskkkkkkkkkkk

 
Connecting to an Nvidia Shield Tv Usb (which is silent) also causes the Mojo to Whine.  Power source doesn't seem to make any difference for my Mojo.   
 

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