[LugBug1]

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I'm getting a little noise when plugging in hp's to the hp jack. Is it safe to give a little squirt of deoxit right into the hp jack?

Yup, in fact I insist you do it. Why have you not done it already? Always unplug from the mains when cleaning.. Little squirt in there and if you have a cotton bud, the type peeps clean their ears with- gently clean inside. Squirt inside the inputs at the back as well. I use a fine art paint brush to clean inside those as a cotton bud won't fit. 

 

[PhoenixG]

Hey, I just want to throw in my two cents. IMHO, the 1280 and 1250 are different animals. Sure they have a lot in common and are in theory just a model year newer, but they were built for different price points. I like looking at the insides, and the 1250 seems to have more in common with the 1980 than the 1280. The 1250 and 1980 seem to have the same power and tuner sections, despite different power ratings. The 1250 has more shielding, like the 1980, and is heavier. Anyone with better knowledge on this?

 

[moodyrn]

Attention Skylab, you have a call on line 3....lol. He's the best one to answer this since he's owned all three of the pioneer monsters. I think I remember him preferring the 1280 over the 1250 though. Although I haven't heard the 1250 or 1980, I'll take one of each.

 

[MattTCG]

Is the sx1250 at $650 in very good condition worthy of consideration?

 

[Skylab]

I have owned the 1250, 1280, and 1980, and all three are really outstanding. The 1250 is a little warmer than the 1280 and 1980, but otherwise not so different. The 1980 has for sure the best phono section, and to me seems to offer the smoothest and most nuanced performance, but its only subtly better than the 1250 or 1280.

Matt, an excellent condition 1250 for $650 is a decent but not exceptional price. But honestly, your money is MUCH better spent getting your 1280 recapped.

 

[moodyrn]

Matt, an excellent condition 1250 for $650 is a decent but not exceptional price. But honestly, your money is MUCH better spent getting your 1280 recapped.

 

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[MattTCG]

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I have owned the 1250, 1280, and 1980, and all three are really outstanding. The 1250 is a little warmer than the 1280 and 1980, but otherwise not so different. The 1980 has for sure the best phono section, and to me seems to offer the smoothest and most nuanced performance, but its only subtly better than the 1250 or 1280.

Matt, an excellent condition 1250 for $650 is a decent but not exceptional price. But honestly, your money is MUCH better spent getting your 1280 recapped.

 
I was already starting to ponder the recap. As much as I like to gear swap, the 1280 just hits all the right spots for me and I'm seriously thinking of a recap for the 1280. Doing some research over on AK now. 

 

[kstuart]

I did not notice this originally, since my main use for the Sansui AU-417 would be headphones... here is a picture of a stock unit:

and here is the AU-417 which I received yesterday:

Hint - remember the Quad amp posted a day or two ago ?
 
UPDATE:  A google search shows that there are some other ones out there with the box around the top writing and the binding posts.  So, evidently my unit is stock and is later-production-run... AK had a code for the serial numbers, and it is April 1979 (definitely later production!).  BeatleFred on AK posted about the production runs:
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I believe the AU-919 was introduced before the 719, since the early 919's from '78 all appear to have the spring clip speaker terminals. However, I tend to think of the 719 as part of the 'one-nine' series, as they do have the DD/DC circuitry denoted in green print on the front panel.

It can get a bit complicated since there is some overlap in the product line....

And even though the AU-717 was discontinued in '79, there were still some smaller 'one-seven' models in the line, the AU-417....117II and their matching 'one-seven' series tuners which continued into 1980.

So it seems that Sansui did not want to make an AU-419, so they just kept making the AU-417 into 1980, hence some AU-417s have x19 features like binding posts.  And, since the early x19s, in 1978, have spring clips, we can conclude that Sansui changed to binding posts in 1979.
 
(The sort of detective work that one is only motivated to do for a piece of gear one owns, lol.)

 

[MattTCG]

Love the binding post!! 

 

[kstuart]

And, coming round to the earlier discussion, here is a nice thread with pictures, from the Sansui forum at AK, about putting Binding Posts on an amp that comes with clips, including pictures of several different aftermarket binding posts installed:
 
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=480423

 

[moodyrn]

That's great info and very helpful.

Oregonian there's one reason the spec stuff don't get talked about much.....you and a few others are in a class all by yourselves. Not many will ever get that lucky lol. The alternative is scoring a spec setup by paying the price of a used Mercedes.

 

[Meewoo]

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Oregonian there's one reason the spec stuff don't get talked about much.....you and a few others are in a class all by yourselves. Not many will ever get that lucky lol. The alternative is scoring a spec setup by paying the price of a used Mercedes.

 
I think SX-1980 fetches more money than spec rack(or most important part spec 1 and 4). The reason is that we are in "integrated/receiver" thread, the SPEC is separates.
 
If we talk separates, BmWr75's Marantz rack also keeps me drooling.

 

[moodyrn]

When I created this thread, I had all vintage amps in mind. So this thread is not just limited to integrateds and receivers. My statement above was more tongue in cheek than anything else. I guess I assumed that was obvious. But the main reason why separates isn't discussed more is, they aren't nearly as plentiful and as easy to acquire as neither integrates nor receivers. That's also the reason receivers are discussed here more than integrateds. There just so many more of them and they are way easier to come across.

 

[Skylab]

I would love to hear a whole Spec setup someday. I've never even seen them in the flesh.

 

[Oregonian]

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I would love to hear a whole Spec setup someday. I've never even seen them in the flesh.

Stop on by.  You are cordially invited next time you're in Portland, Oregon.  Really.