Brief Odac impressions
Jul 18, 2012 at 1:13 PM Post #466 of 2,018
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Yeah, those two and a few others are just resellers putting the product in a different chassis.  It's not like they designed the JDSLabs O2 or EHP-O2 either.
 
There's only actually one source of populated PCBs—which are not trivial to produce, considering that the whole thing is SMT parts.  Making them in small quantities would be cost-prohibitive.  The resellers just buy the boards from that source, which of course doesn't deal with individual customers and single orders.

 
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From a certain blog on the interwebs, there seems on only be one version of the board available, since they mass produced it.

 
 
I see. Thank you both! Can you tell me about more sources for these ODAC's, apart from JDSLabs and Epiphany Acoustics? I guess that info must be in the last 30 pages, but you could save me the trouble... 
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Jul 18, 2012 at 1:33 PM Post #467 of 2,018
Jul 18, 2012 at 3:18 PM Post #468 of 2,018
In the European market there is head n head fi however JDS labs one is the cheapest.
 
Jul 22, 2012 at 3:14 PM Post #471 of 2,018
first fast impression:
I get my ODAC two days ago, so this is not full review.
My older DAC/AMP is Aune USB mini DAC MK2 SE upgraded with OP627 (2x2pcs on dual adapter) - powered by 12V power supply.
ODAC was powered from USB and from "line out" connected by coaxial cables to Line IN of AUNE.
Headphones - Sennheiser HD650
Music for testing was in FLAC an 24/96 (mostly audiophile records from Chesky and other good labels)
 
1. Space in records is similar - ODAC has little bit bigger sustain and wider stage (approx +10%)
 
2. Bass - ODAC has more precise lower tones, perfect defined, without bluring and enhancement (ODAC 15% better)
    (amount of bass is perfect for my HD650 - maybe some people with more "flat" headphones, like AKG701 can feel lack of bass)
 
3. Middle - ODAC has better definition, specialy in lower middle spectrum. Instruments has better location and i feel they are more "real". Same situation is with male voices. (ODAC 25% better)
 
4. High - perfect neutral sound without any interferences or distortion. Even in my HD650 which are little bit high lacking i can now hear more details than with Aune. (ODAC 20% better)
 
Overall - perfect device for 100USD, very neutral and detailed sounding.
I belive there can be bigger difference in sound with some better headamp than the one in AUNE.
I have my DIY   A classs opamp free amp - Dispre 2  from czech builder Pavel Macura so i will post some AUNE and ODAC comparsion with this amp later.
I also have USB isolator and  Very low noise power supply from Per-Anders Sjostrom for powering the ODAC.
Now I´m waiting for box to combine all this part together.
 
And sorry for my english -  it´s not my first language.
 
Michal
 
Jul 22, 2012 at 9:07 PM Post #472 of 2,018
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Thanks guys! Great info... 
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Yoyodyne Consulting is actually the source of the ODAC boards, the rest are resellers who also integrate the boards into appropriate casings.
 
Jul 23, 2012 at 8:03 AM Post #473 of 2,018
I'm having a few annoying glitches with my ODAC, I use it with ASIO4All and Foobar2000. I have it connected to the computer through a short USB cable with ferrite, I leave the ODAC hooked up to the computer 24/7 however most of times when I start Foobar and I press play the output dialogue box pops up and I have to select DS:ODAC in order to be able to play, also the master volume drops to 50% (half) every time this happens. Sometimes even if I just stop Foobar and leave the computer unattended for a while, when I come back to it I have to select the ODAC again.
 
Another issue that might be unrelated is occasionally when I skip a song I hear a loud popping noise which I did not use to hear before using my DACport with ASIO4All. By the way I'm running Windows XP SP3 32bit. Cheers
 
Jul 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM Post #475 of 2,018
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I'm having a few annoying glitches with my ODAC, I use it with ASIO4All and Foobar2000. I have it connected to the computer through a short USB cable with ferrite, I leave the ODAC hooked up to the computer 24/7 however most of times when I start Foobar and I press play the output dialogue box pops up and I have to select DS:ODAC in order to be able to play, also the master volume drops to 50% (half) every time this happens. Sometimes even if I just stop Foobar and leave the computer unattended for a while, when I come back to it I have to select the ODAC again.
 
Another issue that might be unrelated is occasionally when I skip a song I hear a loud popping noise which I did not use to hear before using my DACport with ASIO4All. By the way I'm running Windows XP SP3 32bit. Cheers

DS:ODAC means your signal is going through the windows mixer.
 
Install WASAPI for foobar and configure it for WASAPI instead.
 
Jul 23, 2012 at 1:19 PM Post #476 of 2,018
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DS:ODAC means your signal is going through the windows mixer.
 
Install WASAPI for foobar and configure it for WASAPI instead.

 
I don't think XP supports WASAPI.  I think that's only Vista and Win7.  Anyone feel free to chime in and correct me if that's inaccurate.
 
Isn't there a separate section for ASIO controls in Foobar2000?
 
Jul 23, 2012 at 1:58 PM Post #477 of 2,018
For XP, there is Kernel Streaming option to bypass the internal mixer as well.
 
Jul 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM Post #478 of 2,018
ASIO4all is just a wrapper, it really has no benefit except for compatibility in some situations. It still goes through the windows mixer. 
 
Jul 23, 2012 at 5:24 PM Post #479 of 2,018
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Another issue that might be unrelated is occasionally when I skip a song I hear a loud popping noise which I did not use to hear before using my DACport with ASIO4All. By the way I'm running Windows XP SP3 32bit. Cheers

do the songs have different rates?  I heard a clicking on a preveious DAC sometimes and it was from the DAC switching between different resolution files.  It mellowed out after a while.  not sure that helps at all though.
 
Jul 23, 2012 at 6:03 PM Post #480 of 2,018
I just ordered one of these from JDS.

I'm using an HRT MS2 now. In the past I had owned some $1000 DACs like the benchmark or isabellina but never really felt that their price offered enough of an upgrade over stuff like the ms2+ (or even the ms2, to be honest)

I figure if the odac can come close to dac1 performance for under 200 bucks, then ill be set for the long term.

They're back ordered but I suppose I'm part of the late July / early August shipment
 

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