Blasphemy: Looking for closed phones with a Grado sound
Dec 31, 2009 at 3:56 PM Post #16 of 22
I'm going to second the recommendation of a nice pair of Audio-Technicas. They don't *sound* like Grados, but they have a beautiful midrange, amazing bass, and clear highs. I'd try and snag a pair of the super sexy ESW10s. I highly recommend them
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Jan 17, 2010 at 7:27 AM Post #17 of 22
An epilogue:

The concept of the GR8s intrigued me, so I borrowed a guy's Shure IEMs at work. I think I can safely say I will never own a pair of IEMs! The sound is what it is, but they don't feel good in my ears, and quickly get gross.

On your advice I auditioned the Beyerdynamic DT770s (220Ω), AKG K271s and the Audio Technica ESW9A. The Beyers and ATs were thankfully available for A/B testing at my local Guitar Center, where the dude was extremely cool. The ATs I purchased from Adorama, who managed to take 7 days to deliver them the 120 miles to my house.

My source was iPhone through the CMOY; audition material was some early Pogues, Nina Simone, Shins, John Coltrane and some jazzy hip hop from an artist named Count Bass D.

The AKGs were by far the most open sounding and likely the most accurate. They were also the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn. The sound was nothing at all like the Grados, but I liked what I heard -- every piece of material I fed them was handled attractively with great detail. I feel that However, I found their look to be far too ostentatious -- they may be comfortable, but they're also huge and wide. If I worked in a studio, not an office, they'd have been the right choice.

The Beyers were quite comfortable, wide and detailed with all sources. But the reproduction wasn't always attractive. The Pogues track sounded especially cold and lifeless, likely because it was recorded that way and I'm used to hearing it spiced up and smoothed out. In fact, it wasn't until I got to the Count Bass D track that I was really impressed. These phones can handle some bass! I have since discovered that several of my DJ friends swear by these phones for their ability to track beats.

The Audio Technicas impressed me immediately with their opulent materials and classy executive look. And I discovered that I prefer the on-ear phone to the over ear phone. The over the ear phones had a little better isolation and required a higher volume to leak noise, but the ATs were good enough that they blocked out nearby conversations when played at low volume. They were not initially very comfortable, but over a week they loosened up dramatically. They aren't as wide as the AKGs but they have a well defined stage. Reproduction is certainly more Grado-like than the others, flavoring the audio in key bands. However, highs are so fast and accurate that they can be harsh! I've always disliked the way MP3 models cymbals and high hats, and the ATs turned that into hate. None of my lossless audition tracks sound bad, but some of the rips I made in college are so harsh it becomes fatiguing.

I have decided to stick with the ATs -- mainly because when I listen to them I don't constantly wish I were listening to the Grados instead!

Thanks all for your advice.
 
Jan 17, 2010 at 9:11 PM Post #18 of 22
k240 are semi open that dont leak much at all and don't sound as clausterphobic as other closed fones, and theyre only $100. with that said, don't expect to get grado sound out of anything other than a grado...

sony v6 are bass and treble boosted with recessed mids and poor dynamics, how someone could think it is similar to sr225 is beyond me...
 
Jan 17, 2010 at 11:05 PM Post #19 of 22
Perhaps the BeyerDynamic DT660, or the GermanMaestro GMP250?
Or the K270 Playback, if you can find them.
 
Jan 18, 2010 at 11:55 AM Post #21 of 22
How about NikonGod's Fraken DT770/SR125 thing. He's selling it here: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f10/fs...-often-464652/
It seems to be a pair of SR125 drivers housed in a DT770 shell. It's a closed Grado. Maybe it's what you're looking for?
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EDIT: Scratch that. Looks like he sold them.
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Jan 18, 2010 at 6:26 PM Post #22 of 22
I've thought about it -- but so much of the Grado sound depends on their openness (e.g. those exquisite resonance chambers, the aluminum on the PS-1k and 325s and the mahogany on the RS/GS) that you rob yourself when you close them off.

I mean, put a block of wood over the ends of your Grado phones some time, simulating a "closed" Grado driver. It sounds awful!
 

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