[Quinto]

 
 

   
  This is opinion not fact.

   
  Not all opinions are created equal. Some are informed opinions that are backed up by supporting evidence.

One individual has another psychological type- or make up as you will.. then the other. Intuitional experience is other then an analytical one.. One is not better then the other, just different..
 
To be more specific, when I speak for myself, I'm a romantic, I experience music as a connection with a unspeakable individuality..seen in the historical context of human development..
 
If I connect, I develop a friendship or even love for the individual that speaks (the unspeakable) so beautiful and eloquently..
 
The nuance which a performing entity bring to the table, adds another layer to the experience..
 
When I read musical analysis on, say Beethoven's string quartets, it is alway a bit of a disappointment for me, it does little for my aesthetics, it seems so bloody trivial...
 
The big flaw of the 'not all opinions are created equal' argument is the fact it translates to 'your opinions are not equal to mine'
 
When you read music critics over the last ages, the red thread is clearly a lack of insight in the different psychological types, their own being the objective 'truthful' one, the others the misguided ones.. it's all balony, if you ask me

 
Hope this makes some sence.. cheers.

 

[sh4dowd4ncer]

Although I find interesting the philosophy chat, I would like to point two nice opportunities (both in iTunes) about really good stuff that was discussed here:

Heifetz + Sibeliius for U$ 5
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/sibelius-violin-concerto-in/id458436919


and
Furtwangler in Bayreuth 1951 9th Beethoven for the same U$ 5
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/ludwig-van-beethoven-symphony/id405832179

 

[magiccabbage]

im looking for new enough (in the last 15 years) and good recordings of string quartets. Anyone have any good suggestions? 

 

[Quinto]

  im looking for new enough (in the last 15 years) and good recordings of string quartets. Anyone have any good suggestions? 

IMO Borodin Quartet Shostakovich & Schubert are splendid, (though a bit older then 15 yrs) Alexander Quartet (last one) of Beethoven is very very good, as is Takacs Quartet..Emerson Quartet is great with Schubert, Quatuor Mosaiques is very good for Haydn and Mozart.. There is a new 10 cd Haydn box out for around 30 UK pounds, best Haydn everr

 

[magiccabbage]

 
IMO Borodin Quartet Shostakovich & Schubert are splendid, (though a bit older then 15 yrs) Alexander Quartet (last one) of Beethoven is very very good, as is Takacs Quartet..Emerson Quartet is great with Schubert, Quatuor Mosaiques is very good for Haydn and Mozart.. There is a new 10 cd Haydn box out for around 30 UK pounds, best Haydn everr

thanks i will have a look now

 

[perhapss]

 
 

   
  This is opinion not fact.

   
  Not all opinions are created equal. Some are informed opinions that are backed up by supporting evidence.

 
Obviously.

 

[Quinto]

   
Obviously.

 
Facts are based on evidence, problem starts when people make those claims for opinions..

 

[perhapss]

   
Obviously.

But:
 
For example: Stravinsky, arguably one of the greatest composers of the 20th century, hated Wagner's music and had lot of reasons which he thought were well thought out and he articulated(I won't go into detail here info is easy to find online or in books) to show it's weaknesses and faults.
 
I think it's safe to say that both you and I both like Wagner's music.
 
Maybe you're intellectual stature is  above Stravinsky but mine is not.
 
I still think he was wrong but a lot of others agree with him.
 
Who's right?
All of us?
 
Maybe Stravinsky was "uninformed"?

 

[perhapss]

My last post was addressed to "Bigshot".

 

[perhapss]

"Facts are based on evidence, problem starts when people make those claims for opinions."

Agreed.

 

[perhapss]

   
Facts are based on evidence, problem starts when people make those claims for opinions..

 Yes!

 

[perhapss]

  im looking for new enough (in the last 15 years) and good recordings of string quartets. Anyone have any good suggestions? 

 
Do you mean new compositions by contemporary composers?

 

[magiccabbage]

   
Do you mean new compositions by contemporary composers?

no, sorry. I should have specified - just new recordings. 

 

[Quinto]

Bought this on LP recently, stunning 

 

 

 

[perhapss]

  Bought this on LP recently, stunning 

 

 

 

  no, sorry. I should have specified - just new recordings. 

I've heard it on cd years ago and remember it being very good.
In fact it's the only Masur recording I remember at all.
 
Granted I haven't listened to him lately but I gave him a chance once upon a time.
Maybe I'll give him a second chance one of these winter nights...