[Gwarmi]

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Thanks for pointing that out. I've emailed Kingwa to see if we can get a price and output specs. I'm hoping that the amp on the Reference 10 is as powerful as the Master 6. 

 The fact that Input 1 is AES/EBU is a subtle but firm suggestion on Kingwa's behalf that this is aimed at serious enthusiasts and
 even professionals.

 

[steve2151]

I got a response from Kingwa. No set price yet, but he indicates that it should be able to power the HE-6. 

 

[Sdmark]

Any updates on this? It's supposed to drop in a little over two weeks but I still don't see a price anywhere yet.

 

[Gwarmi]

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Any updates on this? It's supposed to drop in a little over two weeks but I still don't see a price anywhere yet.

 Not sure about price but these will be rare - Kingwa is talking about 500 pieces of PCM1704UK here and there.
 
 The Ref 7.1 is set to roll out again (backorders and current) at 8 x pieces per unit - where does this leave the
 Reference 10 which will take 4 x pieces per unit?
 
 Hmmm,.,
 

 

[Sdmark]

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 Not sure about price but these will be rare - Kingwa is talking about 500 pieces of PCM1704UK here and there.
 
 The Ref 7.1 is set to roll out again (backorders and current) at 8 x pieces per unit - where does this leave the
 Reference 10 which will take 4 x pieces per unit?
 
 Hmmm,.,
 

I'm not liking the reality of that observation...
 
 

 

[tim3320070]

I doubt it's as many as you think. He's not selling hundreds of these, more like dozens most likely- 1 or 2 in the last 2 weeks per the consignment page which equals 25-ish per year.

 

[Gwarmi]

 
 What will happen of course if demand is consistently high is that we will see a ESS018 Sabre or possibly even
 a dual Wolfson 8741 version of the Ref 10 - no shortage of chippery there.
 
 On the second hand market this will create two resale prices, no prizes for guessing the PCM model will be
 the expensive jewel.

 

[sjay]

kingwa told me it would be around the same price as the ref 7.1, this was about 2 weeks ago

 

[eugenius]

Needs a digital processing loop to be complete.

 

[tme110]

isn't that a DSP pictured in the middle column?

 

[keph]

price is up...Ref 10 to expensive...

 
 

[size=x-small]Reference 10​ 　​ [/size]

4 pcs PCM1704UK，TE8802 Fully balanced DAC + Headphone amp + Preamp​

I2S version: USD1790 USB version: USD1850 (Applied TE8802)​

Shipping start at 15th April.​

 
 

[size=x-small]NFB-20​ 　​ [/size]

Dual WM8741 Fully balanced DAC + Headphone amp + Preamp​

I2S version： USD1430 USB96 version ：USD1430 USB192 version ：USD1480​

Shipping start at 15th April.​

 
 

[size=x-small]NFB-6​ http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB6/NFB6EN.htm 　​ [/size]

Class A  ACSS [size=x-small]Real balance ​ Headphone Amplifier / [size=x-small]Preamp[/size] ​ [/size]

399(Promo)​

Shipping start at 15th April.​

 
 
 

[size=x-small]NFB-17​ http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/dac/NFB17/NFB17EN.htm 　​ [/size]

Dual Wolfson WM8741 DAC chips (XRL/ACSS/RCA output, truly balanced DAC ) ​

USB96 version: 399 USB192 version: 439​

Shipping start at 15th April.​

 

 

[eugenius]

I knew this will cost as much as a reference 7.1, just look at what it offers. REF7.1 + Master5 is a little bit better but almost twice the price, but at least it's top of the (chinese) line.

 

[DarknightDK]

Available for pre-order. Anyone going to be the first to bite and post a review? 

 

[tme110]

It's interesting that AGD has been quiet about the new 24/192 USB capability.  I don't use USB myself but that's huge news and puts them back up with the big boys.  Probably less of an issue with the ref10 since it uses the 1704UK R2R DAC design (which is considered 24/96 (though the most sought after 24/96))

 

[milosz]

I think I want one.  Have to sell some other stuff to get it, or come out of retirement and get a job.  WAIT A MINUTE.....!  Did I say "get a job...?"
 
There's something seriously wrong with me.  Call the doctor, call the priest....