borrego
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Alternatively, you can use the $500 to buy the NFB-11 + DT880/K701 to have another setup in your office/bedroom.
There is over a 60% increase in price from the nfb-1 to the nfb-7. Are you telling me that it is worth it when the majority of the dac remains unchanged? This is a hypothetical question and please rerfrain form answering because we know that the value in one man's eyes may be vastly different from another man's. I'm just putting it in perspective.
There's a reason why the stuff like Gilmore GS-X, Headroom Ultra, and B22 have beefy dedicated power supplies.
To be honest, I hate the upgrade bug caused from having second tier equipment and plan to purchase the nfb-7 over the nfb-1 come tax return season (assuming positive reviews and that a-gd is no longer offering the reference series). There's likely a significant benefit to purchasing the nfb-7, but I am only posting in response to an early statement that more nfb-1 have been sold relative to the nfb-7. As great as the nfb-7 may be, I think the nfb-1 is a steal for the money.
Just hope Audio GD isn't taking 2 steps backwards by discontinuing the PCM1704UK with the ESS DAC's .. Going by the NFB-1 v REF5 tread , the same is going to happen with the NFB-7 vs REF7 it would seem . Sounds like the NFB-7 won't be as good as the REF7 but different sounding ..
Anyway eagerly awaiting some reviews on the NFB-7 to see how it stacks up .
How do the psu's of the nfb1 and ref5 compare to other manufacturers? From what I understand, these a-gd units have damn good psu's for being mid level offerings. Please remember the principle of diminishing returns.
I think all this talk about the ESS being inferior or going backwards is nonsense. In the NFB-1 thread, Macrog (who has both REF7 and NFB7) seem to imply they are on the same level with the NFB7/ESS implementation being more detailed, dynamic, and analytical and the REF7/PCM1704UK being more musical and forgiving of bad recordings. My personal preference would be to keep the DAC as neutral and detailed as possible with the amp doing the rest (tubes for musical, SS for analytical). If you start with a "musical" DAC, it's harder to go "backwards" to analytical.
Nobody else offers power supplies like Audio-GD for anywhere near the money, but I agree that the NFB-7 shouldn't be discounted as "just" a power supply upgrade...
My only concern is going too far in the "analytical" direction leads to sound that is dry, clinical, and sterile, and ultimately unpleasant (see Benchmark).
Doesn't look like "just" a PS upgrade. BTW, what are those black box thingies? ACSS modules? I would assume the ACSS modules on the NFB-1 are dual modules and those on the NFB-single are single.
Heh Purrin, very often people speaking the same language aren't on the same page. As for the es9018 vs pcm1704 comparison translation I tried to do, it shouldn't be that bad since I speak Chinese (but can't read) and had a few Chinese readers critique my editing. "Younger" works fine, but I did make a mistake and thought Kingwa meant es9018 sounded contemporary (like architecture), when he meant sounded similar to modern/current sigma-delta dac chips, but without harshness or artificial sound signature.
I think Kingwa said it best, and I'm paraphrasing here, about a equipment designer being like a cook, and how the final result in how a dish tastes like is determined by the chef.