Audeze LCD-4
Feb 20, 2016 at 6:51 PM Post #2,446 of 12,021
If I were to purchase an LCD-4 say after the problems get worked out maybe 6-8 months from now, would my amp and system be good enough for it? I might either upgrade my amp or turntable to go with them. I have the Burson Soloist regular with the 4 watt output. The rest of my system(s) are in my signature.

 
I have the original Burson Conductor so I am in the same boat with the same amplifier section as the Soloist. The specs only say 4W at 16 Ohms for the old Conductor/Soloist so it is hard to tell exactly what it is at 200 ohms with only one data point. However, the new V2 Conductor has more specs listed at the bottom of the page here.. http://www.bursonaudio.com/products/conductor-v2/
 
It now has double the power at 8W with a bigger transformer and it does about 0.8W at 200 Ohms. Assuming the V2 is otherwise very similar, the old Conductor/Soloist will be half that so 0.4W @ 200 Ohms. Music can have peaks up to 120dB assuming you listen at 90dB. In theory it should work OK, but will have to wait and see how well it sounds in practice.
 
@97dB/mW (from digizoid.com)
Loudness     Power Needed
110 dB SPL     20 mW
115 dB SPL     63 mW
120 dB SPL     200 mW
 
Feb 20, 2016 at 7:34 PM Post #2,448 of 12,021
Personally, I'm still on the fence.  I love the Audeze sound and would like to upgrade mine to the LCD-4.  But, with the launch issues, I'm waiting - for the mod 2 SQ impressions and reliability data.
 
My vent, always IMHO:
 
The launch of cutting-edge technology like the LCD-4 involves difficult decisions for the company.  The main decision (I have experienced) is always - we have a great new product that we want to launch, and satisfy our demanding customers - but do we have the product reliability data to ensure we can make a consistent product that won't fail in-use.  There is always a trade-off.  Some customers (posters here) have had a terrible experience and may never buy another Audeze product. Other customers are highly satisfied with the new can.
 
To me, Audeze's decision to revisit their design and raw material supply means they acknowledge the original design issue. They are committed to the project and are taking steps to make the product more robust.  The 3-year warranty is very important.  People who experienced failures will get new HP's.  The company is standing behind their product, improving the design, and providing relief for folks who had failures.  I'm not really sure what else they should be doing.
 
Cheers,
RCB
 
Feb 20, 2016 at 7:37 PM Post #2,449 of 12,021
  Hmmmm.  Not to derail the thread, but I wonder if they will come out with a soloist mk 2 or is the conductor v2 it?

 
The Conductor v2 is it, the full Conductor with the DAC they are calling it the v2+ now.
Good descriptions on the side bar here of each one.. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/conductor-v2-usb-soundcard-8watt-head-amp-preamp#/
 
Feb 25, 2016 at 12:51 PM Post #2,454 of 12,021
I just sold my X and returned by 3F. I am being a little nitpicking, but these 2 models all have a somewhat rough treble nature, which irritates my sensitive ear after several minutes. I enjoyed the bass and midrange very much though. So here is the question, does the treble on LCD 4 sound smoother? Is it brighter than the 3F or darker? It seems currently the treble quantity is pretty inconsistent, based on the impressions and a few available graph.
 
Feb 25, 2016 at 1:53 PM Post #2,457 of 12,021
  I just sold my X and returned by 3F. I am being a little nitpicking, but these 2 models all have a somewhat rough treble nature, which irritates my sensitive ear after several minutes. I enjoyed the bass and midrange very much though. So here is the question, does the treble on LCD 4 sound smoother? Is it brighter than the 3F or darker? It seems currently the treble quantity is pretty inconsistent, based on the impressions and a few available graph.

The LCD-4 is a bit brighter. but still they sound smooth.
 
The Audeze not bother treble. Place the pads backward. Sound darker.
 
Feb 26, 2016 at 8:27 AM Post #2,458 of 12,021
I received a review unit a few hours ago. First impressions? I love them. Can't take them off my head. What strikes me the most is the natural sound they are capable of, but also the very holographic soundstage, incredible textures and very good details.  The sound flows into your soul.
 
Really excited about these headphones: 
 

 
Feb 26, 2016 at 9:38 AM Post #2,459 of 12,021
  I received a review unit a few hours ago. First impressions? I love them. Can't take them off my head. What strikes me the most is the natural sound they are capable of, but also the very holographic soundstage, incredible textures and very good details.  The sound flows into your soul.
 
Really excited about these headphones: 
 

More details please.  Comparisons to X and 3F if possible...
 
Feb 26, 2016 at 11:57 AM Post #2,460 of 12,021
I received a review unit a few hours ago. First impressions? I love them. Can't take them off my head. What strikes me the most is the natural sound they are capable of, but also the very holographic soundstage, incredible textures and very good details.  The sound flows into your soul.

Really excited about these headphones: 




I notice that the wood is not cocobolo . Must be the export wood they are forced to use.. Close ups please.
 

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