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Headphoneus Supremus
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Waiting for more @shigzeo!
Originally Posted by shigzeo /img/forum/go_quote.gif What I don't like is the connector, but then, I don't like the JHA/Westone connector. You CAN ask Earsonics to build a countersunk model for you, but I didn't think of that. excellent earphone. wishy-washy connector. I wonder if the Sleek CT7 model can be adapted to it? I love that connector, but the cable is pretty much rubbish. |
Originally Posted by shigzeo /img/forum/go_quote.gif True. Sleek could have the best connecting system if only their cable was better. But I hope some big company changes the cables away from that breaky-fakey two-pin system that holds the reigns now. FitEars' is good, but doesn't allow for graphics. There is no win is there? If taken care of, they should last a long time, though, but the whole system is just... weak. |
Originally Posted by shigzeo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Let me put it this way: forget the driver/configuration. It is a very even Stephen sort of earphone. I would say it is... neutral. But not exactly neutral to the ear. If you want that, the JH13Pro might be a better choice. The EM3Pro is mids mostly with flat treble and bass. The problem with that approach is that generally, the ear is rolled off in the bass and treble, so a little accentuation helps. But then, if you do that, you also risk going too far, or having too 'defined' a sound. If you have a source with a good EQ (rockbox, Cowon), then you can make this earphone sound however you want without worry. It won't distort easily and thought I've not tested it long enough, I would say that it tends to stay pretty flat no matter what source it is plugged into. If you want 'detail' (usually meaning treble energy), you can EQ it, but otherwise, this earphone is mostly about smooth, tender mids. Bass and treble should be EQ'd for best results. It is a paper-doll sort of earphone - what you want, you'll get, but you have to know how to do it. The JH13Pro, and ostensibly the 16Pro, work with the notion that a built-in EQ that more closely matches the ear's attenuation, will be better. I have no preference as both seem to work very well. There is no hint of harshness and there is lots of detail as long as it doesn't just mean 'treble energy'. But... it isn't immediately 'gawwwwwd that's detailed'. |
Originally Posted by shigzeo /img/forum/go_quote.gif The EM3Pro is mids mostly with flat treble and bass. The problem with that approach is that generally, the ear is rolled off in the bass and treble, so a little accentuation helps. But then, if you do that, you also risk going too far, or having too 'defined' a sound. If you have a source with a good EQ (rockbox, Cowon), then you can make this earphone sound however you want without worry. It won't distort easily and thought I've not tested it long enough, I would say that it tends to stay pretty flat no matter what source it is plugged into. If you want 'detail' (usually meaning treble energy), you can EQ it, but otherwise, this earphone is mostly about smooth, tender mids. Bass and treble should be EQ'd for best results. It is a paper-doll sort of earphone - what you want, you'll get, but you have to know how to do it. |
Originally Posted by FortisFlyer75 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Going to be pulling the trigger after auditioning the JH13/16's pros as well as the EM3 pros at my UK dealer next Friday ( on a high now!) so am interested also in the views of EM3's to all the countless posts i have digested for four months on JHpros. Just touching upon the EQ thing which really intrigues me and hope i don't open a can of worms totally here but it is puzzling me to some extent from what i have read in other threads that have the words "JHpro" & "EQ" in the same sentence.... I know it is down to personal preference and some people like it, but does using EQ not negate the very reason for having one of these finely tuned customs only to mess around with it's natural presented sound by adjusting the EQ settings from the dap? To me is making up for insufficient short comings of a system somewhere within the chain whether it the source (dap) cables or the earphones does not have that natural synergy that the user is looking for and just reverts to using EQ to try and put it right resulting in a false sound. After all and i take into account there are poorly engineered recordings and pressings out there, but EQ adjustments are surly meant to be done at the recording phase in the studio. I only say this as we are not talking about a £30 pair of iems with a £30 dap for example, it is the top end of portable audio "hi-fi" when custom ear pieces enter the fray when used in conjunction with twag cables maybe and a good dap or seperate hi-fi source as in the parallel universe and equivalent in speaker world Hi-Fi seperates the components are of the highest quality and do not have EQ's on them as they are tuned to to be heard as the manufacturer intended them to be in their pursuit of sound perfection of trying to reproduce the nearest and truest sound from the recorded source it possibly can as are the custom earpieces manufactured by JH, Earsonics & UE for example. Anyone who has a good speaker set up would not dream of having a EQ in the setup as this defeats the object of trying to strive for that perfect sound from the product, so why is it any different to portable high end audio? What happens when a speaker Hi-Fi set up has no synergy it's not an EQ that is introduced, but the components in the chain from source to cables amp and speaker all have to have a natural synergy and if not, it usually comes after hours of auditioning different equipment in a listening room until the perfect combination is found. I admit here it is near damn impossible with this sort of less mass manufactured specialized portable gear to be able to readily pop down to the local dealer and audition this sort of gear, but i would of thought that would be the benchmark to strive for with this sort of price range of high end porta hi-fi gear especially when also used with lossless files and strive for that perfection instead of using a EQ to cover over the cracks? Hope it did not offend EQ buffs out there, just do not get it when shelling out a lot of £/$'s why go down the EQ route to try and get the sound right? Maybe someone might enlighten me maybe |