fuzzy1969
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anyone know how lossy compression deals with harmonics?
I've always ripped my files in 192 kbs audio format, but some people will only accept 320 kbs. Is there really an audible difference? If I ripped all my music in 320 would there be a noticble difference in sound or will I just be using up more space? What about 192 kbs and windows lossless?
Also, is there a sound difference between mp3 and wma?
The difference between 192 and 320 in MP3 is very audible. With AAC probably not. I have my whole FLAC library compressed to 192 AAC for my iPhone. It sounds fine to me. I used to use 192 for MP3 and it sounded horrible.
[size=medium]This was years ago with the Frauenhofer MP3 codec. I don't need ABX tests to tell me that there are compression artifacts. I don't buy into ABX testing and yes I have had problems over at HA, a site I don't care for. I didn't just listen for bad samples, it was in all my music and I could not stand it. I like hearing all parts of music, and lossy codecs tend to kill the high frequencies, which is mathematically proven. I was even disgusted by 320 kbps MP3. Next time I backed up everything I went to 192 kbps AAC which was better, but I could still tell not all the information was there, even with inexpensive equipment. The last, and current, time I did everything I just kept it FLAC. 16,000 songs (almost 1,700 are 24/96 and 24/192) still leaves me over 150 GB of free space on a 750 GB drive, a luxury I didn't have in the past. Pretty much everything I got that was a vinyl rip I have deleted from the HD directory I have and have just gone with Redbook rips. Anything left in the HD part of my collection is DVD-Audio. I had convinced myself that vinyl was better but I had just EQ'd the hell out of my sound card so Redbook stuff would clip, and quiet vinyl stuff would tend not to. I use lossy for my phone because I don't ever listen to stuff loud, like at home, and it's always in a more noisy place, so artifacts won't be as audible as just sitting down, relaxed, and listening with a lot of focus.[/size]
For me lossy codecs ruin the sounds of cymbals/hi-hats in rock music and blend and mush them together. For real acoustic instruments, that is. Digitally-made ones such as those in pop, electronic, and rap don't seem to suffer as much. I doubt a digital cymbal has as broad as spectrum as a real acoustic cymbal.
The difference between 192 and 320 in MP3 is very audible. With AAC probably not. I have my whole FLAC library compressed to 192 AAC for my iPhone. It sounds fine to me. I used to use 192 for MP3 and it sounded horrible.