CanJam SoCal 2017 Impressions Thread!
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Apr 12, 2017 at 7:29 AM Post #256 of 521
  Here are my notes and impressions, while trying to avoid repeating identical impressions from others.
 
  1. Audio-Technica DSR7BT and DSR9BT - I tried both over BT from my iPhone 6S (so no AptX). The 7BT sounded good, but the 9BT was noticeably a notch above! Passive noise isolation was pretty good. Would be interesting to A/B 9BT to the Sony 1000X, mostly for flights. On paper, Sony is better (ANC vs. passive isolation, and $400 vs. $550). However, I have not A/B them, and from memory - the 9BT might have sounded better. Not sure, though...

 
Thanks for that review. especially the 9er being a notch above the 7er. At +70% higher price it ought to be :)
 
 
Sony 1000X versus Audio-Technica Blutooth shootout should be done with the Sony on LDAC and the Audio-Technica on AptX HD  :)
 
I would be MOST interested in that..
 
Apr 12, 2017 at 7:48 AM Post #257 of 521
  Meh. I was hoping for at least one death metal track...
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I believe Groinsmasher's 'Screaming Fist of Fury' was number 7 on the list
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Apr 12, 2017 at 7:50 AM Post #258 of 521
Apr 12, 2017 at 8:02 AM Post #259 of 521
  My Mother once told me, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything." The only reason I don't live in a trailer park or prison is because I ignored her.


"It's at times like these, when I'm trapped under a boulder with no hope of escape, on a pre-historic planet that's about to be destroyed, that I wished I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young""
 
"Why, what did she tell you?"
 
"I don't know; I didn't listen!!"
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One of my all-time favourite quotes. From memory, so may not be entirely accurate lol.
 
I have enjoyed mightily the two CanJam's I've been to thus far.
For sure, more isolation and noise management by pre-design would be desirable. However, it's a huge job to organise in the first place and I believe they're doing the best they can with a limited budget and time constraints etc, especially given that they may also have their own full-time jobs etc (I was a volunteer myself).
But yeah, hopefully this feedback gets taken on board and a constructive discussion can take place about how future events could be planned to try to address some of these issues.
 
Some things cannot be accounted for though. I remember listening on a pair of fully closed headphones, and struggling to hear because the guy next to me had 'Billy Jean' playing on his headphones at a volume I can only describe as 'apocalyptic'.
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Go hard or go home, haha
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Apr 12, 2017 at 8:24 AM Post #260 of 521
Saw an add for a LCD i4 in-ear at 2450$ available in May !! were they showed or talked at SoCal ???

They kept showing them but could not listen to them.
 
Apr 12, 2017 at 8:48 AM Post #261 of 521
Saw an add for a LCD i4 in-ear at 2450$ available in May !! were they showed or talked at SoCal ???

Is that the iSine IEM's I've been hearing about? I haven't read in any detail, just heard them mentioned, so I don't know what's unique/different about them, other than a kind of Tie fighter appearence?
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Apr 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM Post #262 of 521
 
Did anyone record the seminar talk(s)? I missed them but would like to tune in if possible. 

The one I went to was being filmed so they are somewhere just don't know where. It was very interesting talk I hope you find it as I wouldn't mind hearing portions of it again.

I moderated the 3PM session with Sankar (Audeze), Dan (MrSpeakers), Jason (Schiit) and Jason (THX). That session was recorded by THX to capture Jason Fiber's participation. I do not have a copy and I do not know if they intend to post it anywhere. I am glad you liked the session. It was fun to be a part of.
 
Apr 12, 2017 at 10:40 AM Post #263 of 521
They kept showing them but could not listen to them.



Saw an add for a LCD i4 in-ear at 2450$ available in May !! were they showed or talked at SoCal ???



Mm..wait...what? I thought Audeze will be releasing the iLCD 3 priced at usd 2500.00. They changed the model number to LCDi4?? If it is slated for May release, why is there no info in the official Audeze website?? Weird.
 
Apr 12, 2017 at 11:21 AM Post #266 of 521
Here is how the main exhibition hall sounded, in binaural, on Sunday afternoon about an hour before closing time.

[video]https://youtu.be/5H3cGBfru1E[/video]


For those complaining about the noise levels, you should have totally went to the Under Amour fitting rooms in Studio II. lol




Anyways, I had a blast at this CanJam event. Shoutout to jude and third_eye for getting the event all in order! Also thanks to muinarc for being the chauffeur around town.

^ Pink's hot dogs


^ An expensive, regular-quality, CD from Amoeba Music. Apparently this album is from 1969!



I had a very different set of things I wanted to do at this event compared to most visitors.

I wanted to visit Theoretica Applied Physics to check out their Bach-BM in-ear binaural microphones. If you guys are new to my YouTube channel, I tend to record things in binaural, so it's a unique experience. Theoretica's binaural mics go in the ear canal, so they can capture some of the sounds that the concha would reflect. My in-ear binaural microphones, and many others, sit in the concha itself, so those sounds aren't captured. To me, in the above video, the Bach-BM mics captured the size of the room much better than my mics. I was sitting down at their booth facing their banner, so the sound should be pretty dampened in front, and sounds from other people should sound above your head a bit.









I also wanted to visit Audio Precision since they were letting people measure gear: amps, DACs, headphones, earphones. Their systems cost upwards of $25,000 (probably another $20,000 for the H.A.T.S. mannequin too), so I took full advantage of the opportunity since there's no way I'd be able to afford that in my current state. I got pretty much everything I have at hand measured: STAX SR-207 (again), Etymotic ER4SR, my own custom Ultimate Ears Reference Remastered with a pair of sacrificial large Comply foam tips to create a seal in their in-ear coupler (thanks Netforce!), iFi Audio iEMatch, Ultimate Ears buffer jack, Objective 2, Schiit Audio Bifrost Multibit, and my OnePlus 3 phone. Yeah, that's a looot of stuff. The sessions took around 2.5 hours to measure in total, and fortunately there wasn't anyone behind me in line, hahaha.









It was likewise really neat talking to the folks at Brüel and Kjær (B&K). They're veterans when it comes to acoustic measurements, as I visited their booth at the Audio Engineering Society convention. It was neat getting to learn about their gear, how they differ from those at Audio Precision, and what kind of scenarios their gear is used for. My background is in bioengineering and I used the LabVIEW software in some of my classes. To my surprise, the software B&K uses is made completely in LabVIEW with a customizable GUI. Holy cow that was a mindblow moment for me. The folks there also had a SPL meter and they measured the room to be around 70 dB SPL mid-Sunday, which isn't toooooooooo loud. I had my UE Reference Remastered measured by them too since they were doing headphone measurements as well. I'm still waiting for them to e-mail me the data.



^ B&K earns the "Best Freebie of the Show" award. Seriously, this backpack thingie is really, really high-quality: water-resistant exterior, water bottle mesh holder, zippered coin section on the Velcro-adjusted shoulder strap, padded pocket for laptop, front pocket, pen holder pocket, breathable padded back, reflector strips on the back...this thing is like a $30 bag!



The one and only thing I actually did want to hear at CanJam was the new V-MODA Crossfade Wireless II. I like the M-100 for what it is, but I love the M-80's overall smoothness more. I wasn't expecting much since the Crossfade Wireless II has the Crossfade moniker to it, and I didn't like the Crossfade LP/LP2 at all, but jeeze, I was blown away by its sound. If you take the physical build/appearance of the M-100 and its great instrument separation, the smoothness of the M-80's sound, and the bass amount of the Crossfade LP/LP2, you get the Crossfade Wireless II from what I heard. It was just so awesome and fun to listen to, but at the same time, more Modern audiophile-friendly than the M-100 to me. I wish I could have chatted with valkolton like I did at CanJam at RMAF to send him my high praise. I was super impressed by it. I gave the M-100 to my brother, but if I need a gaming headphone, the Crossfade Wireless II just might be it.



^ I love the matte white version a lot more than the M-100's crème color, but if I get newspaper ink on my fingers, will that rub onto the matte finish easily?



I visited the Ultimate Ears booth since I recently purchased the UE RR. I had a good time talking to the representatives there about their True Tone technology and the works. I listened to the Pro 18+ and I thought it was good, but not quite my preferred sound signature. It was definitely a step-up in terms of overall cohesiveness and had better imaging, but the lows seemed boosted relative to the RR, and the treble shelved. I guess for a professional live artist singer, who would actually use the Pro 18+ as real in-ear monitors, that kind of sound signature is the preferred one.



Apart from those things, I was taking photos of other stuff. I was at the TSAVJason helping out, so I started my photo journey there. They had a lot of products available to listen to, but Cavalli's products were by far the most popular as that area of the booth always had a crowd forming. The Sony-Sony-Sony (MDR-Z1R, TA-ZH1ES, NW-WM1Z...I freaking hate their product nameZ) rig was also very popular. Cavalli had two working prototypes available to listen to. Tentative names, and what was printed on the PCB, are: Liquid Platinum and Liquid Ambiance. I think as what warrenpchi was explaining, the Platinum is kind of like a Crimson and it's fully balanced, Ambiance is like a Tungsten and is single ended (at least in their current stages). Also their Liquid Tungsten is in a case now!
Liquid Platinum






Liquid Ambiance






Liquid Tungsten











Cayin iDAC-6, HA-6, and HA-1A MKII








Questyle's upcoming CMA400i, and their reference Gold Stack with the Focal Utopia






Focal themselves had a gold version of their Utopias




Echobox Explorer...and Liquid Tungsten lightbulbs lol






JH Audio
https://www.jhaudio.com/products/meet-bertha-ear-monitor
It's real!






On a more serious note: Lola



^ A super awesome, carved design



MrSpeakers Æon




Audeze had their new Sine open-back and LCD-Pro






bmichels when I was going around photographing stuff, an Audeze rep said not to photograph something that someone was listening to. Maybe that was it!



Astell and Kern had their KANN portable media player. It's a very pretty color in my opinion.






Overall, I had a really fun time at this CanJam event. I got to talk to a lot of folks who are pretty active on Head-Fi, the people behind the companies, and just friends in general. I think CanJam events are more than just headphone listening events. People don't talk about the things outside of the people and gear though, oddly enough. 64 Audio had a raffle thingie going on for their Fourte(?) in-ears, and right before the raffle was drawn, there was some weird, distorted, leaf blower kind of sound coming from the roof of the event. Most of the people on the opposite side of the room from 64 Audio were like "What is that sound???" and literally 10 seconds after that sound started, there was a girl/woman who shrieked really loud. A lot of people immediately got quiet and darted towards the source of the sound, myself included, since there may have been an accident or emergency event. It turns out, someone had just won the raffle and they shrieked in excitement. Talk about a heart attack moment.

Also, the free swag! I ended up coming home with three t-shirts from people: 1 from Cardas, 1 from Ultimate Ears, 1 from Audio Precision. Not to mention B&K's super utility backpack.

Aaaaaaand last but not least: Jude riding moedawg140's Swagtron motorized scooter! : D






 
Apr 12, 2017 at 11:21 AM Post #267 of 521
  The poster raised some fair points, saying that a loud environment made it difficult to truly compare differences between equipement. Maybe he was a bit blunt about it, but he just stated that he was surprised people could give such precise impressions in such an environment.
 
I don't think calling "grumpy"anyone who criticizes the event (in a constructive manner, with recommendations).
 
It is indeed sad (and useless) if these forums are just for mutual congratulations.

 
The fun part about having all but lived in a cave for part of my life is that I learned to criticize myself quite alot. To be a grumpy and to call myself grumpy.  Though thank you for defending this grumpy old man from his alter ego, which just happens to be another grumpy old man. ( I am the originial poster and the guy calling him grumpy ).

I do appreciate that ya took my criticisms in as they were intended. 
 
Apr 12, 2017 at 11:30 AM Post #268 of 521
The fun part about having all but lived in a cave for part of my life is that I learned to criticize myself quite alot. To be a grumpy and to call myself grumpy.  Though thank you for defending this grumpy old man from his alter ego, which just happens to be another grumpy old man. ( I am the originial poster and the guy calling him grumpy ).


I do appreciate that ya took my criticisms in as they were intended. 


I am myself and obnoxious ill tempered a-hole, which is the next step, so I understand :)
 
Apr 12, 2017 at 11:41 AM Post #269 of 521
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  Here are my notes and impressions, while trying to avoid repeating identical impressions from others.
 
  1. Audio-Technica DSR7BT and DSR9BT - I tried both over BT from my iPhone 6S (so no AptX). The 7BT sounded good, but the 9BT was noticeably a notch above! Passive noise isolation was pretty good. Would be interesting to A/B 9BT to the Sony 1000X, mostly for flights. On paper, Sony is better (ANC vs. passive isolation, and $400 vs. $550). However, I have not A/B them, and from memory - the 9BT might have sounded better. Not sure, though...

 
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Thanks for that review. especially the 9er being a notch above the 7er. At +70% higher price it ought to be :)
 
 
Sony 1000X versus Audio-Technica Blutooth shootout should be done with the Sony on LDAC and the Audio-Technica on AptX HD  :)
 
I would be MOST interested in that..

 
Re: 7BT vs. 9BT - to me, during the 10-15 minutes I played with both, and at the conditions at the show floor (not ideal), 9BT was definitely better, but not by a huge margin. Is it worth $100 more? Yes! Is it worth 70% more? hmmm..... I am not sure...
 
As for Sony 1000X with LDAC vs. 9BT with AptX HD - to me personally, that would not be a useful comparison.  IF I get any of those, it will be to stream BT from my iPhone 6S, which supports none of those BT improvements... No idea if Apple would ever introduce any of them.  Again - that's for MY potential use case.  YMMV...
 
Apr 12, 2017 at 11:59 AM Post #270 of 521
 
What I wrote is that the WA33 is the best tube amp I've heard since the Studio Six. Paired with the Utopia, it was stunning. Paired with my HE1000 v2, it pushed the headphone into new sonic frontiers. I own a WA5LE with upgraded caps and Takatsuki 300Bs-- the best sound a WA5 can produce, arguably. The WA33 was just better, across the board, I'm sorry to report.
 
I'd have no problem putting it ahead of the Studio Six. It's the best tube amp I've ever heard. It actually made me start to add up how I could sell off my WA5, tubes, and a few extras and stretch to the $8,000 asking price. It was that good.

 
You're saying the WA33 is the best tube amp you have heard, after the Studio 6, and you own the WA5. Do you think the Studio 6 is better than the WA5? Can you post some impressions please
 
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