Blue Announces Ella, Sadie and Satellite Headphones @ CES 2017
Mar 16, 2017 at 10:52 PM Post #226 of 327
   
I'm not COMPLETELY convinced. Oppo and FiiO I trust b/c I've used and/or know their products well. lol These other newer ones though I have no clue how good they are and if they are using quality parts or not. 
 
Haha...........but designed in Austria!!! 
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Yeah but again, not everyone wants to play music off their phone. Over the last 10 years, the majority of the time I always used a DAP to play my music. I hated the idea of using up my phone battery for music. lol But now things are different. lol (Note: I only got into the Hi-Fi thing in late 2014). Yeah the Sony A17 had INSANE battery life, but didn't get as loud as it should've, though pretty close IMO. 
 
You have to remember too that until these newer LG and HTC phones came along, the audio on a phone idea was not very good. My Z3 could match the $200 iBasso DX50 in 2014, but it couldn't the $300 A17. But fortunately things ARE changing for the better and I for one am EXTREMELY happy about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Not completely convinced just because you have no experience with them? If you never had experience with them and use that as a reason not to use their products, you will never use their products and never know if it is good even if everyone else says it is and end up never giving them a chance because of the bias. ZTE has been in US markets for a long time and they are definitely very trustworthy and have good support compared to other chinese brands like xiaomi. 
 
I never said you have to use a phone AS A PHONE, you don't need to insert a sim card or pay anything, simple as that. It's basically a DAP that's upgraded in every way possible and you're not using your "phone battery." 
 
Mar 16, 2017 at 10:56 PM Post #227 of 327
  Not completely convinced just because you have no experience with them? If you never had experience with them and use that as a reason not to use their products, you will never use their products and never know if it is good even if everyone else says it is and end up never giving them a chance because of the bias. ZTE has been in US markets for a long time and they are definitely very trustworthy and have good support compared to other chinese brands like xiaomi. 
 
I never said you have to use a phone AS A PHONE, you don't need to insert a sim card or pay anything, simple as that. It's basically a DAP that's upgraded in every way possible and you're not using your "phone battery." 

 
Well I'd done some research on like Huawei or whatever and saw mixed reviews on their phones. I didn't check out the rest though. lol 
 
Ok so what does ZTE have that like HTC, Samsung, etc doesn't? And vice versa???! lol 
 
Ok. So use the phone as a "DAP-only" device. Alright................I'll give you that one akg. 
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Mar 16, 2017 at 11:16 PM Post #228 of 327
   
Well I'd done some research on like Huawei or whatever and saw mixed reviews on their phones. I didn't check out the rest though. lol 
 
Ok so what does ZTE have that like HTC, Samsung, etc doesn't? And vice versa???! lol 
 
Ok. So use the phone as a "DAP-only" device. Alright................I'll give you that one akg. 
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ZTE offers good customer support compared to samdung..... that's for SHURE. Also the axon 7 has the best speakers in any smartphone, sadly it's one of the only phones that still have front facing stereo speakers, they got a big community kinda like oneplus, they got good software support and listen to complaints and issues. They have been in US markets for a while now, although they were all mid rangers, they just started to get into the high end stuff for the US market with the original axon. And if you did not know, chinese smartphones have had hifi audio for YEARS, it was only recently after zte launched the axon with hifi DAC that this trend started in the US
 
Huawei, xiaomi, and oppo are terrible with giant bloated laggy OS's with badly optimized software, slow updates, and extremely high prices (huawei phones). Plus they have bad US customer support and no official rom support (oppo is looking to change this). ZTE and oneplus are the best chinese manufacturers for the US market
 
Mar 16, 2017 at 11:23 PM Post #229 of 327
  ZTE offers good customer support compared to samdung..... that's for SHURE. Also the axon 7 has the best speakers in any smartphone, sadly it's one of the only phones that still have front facing stereo speakers, they got a big community kinda like oneplus, they got good software support and listen to complaints and issues. They have been in US markets for a while now, although they were all mid rangers, they just started to get into the high end stuff for the US market with the original axon. And if you did not know, chinese smartphones have had hifi audio for YEARS, it was only recently after zte launched the axon with hifi DAC that this trend started in the US
 
Huawei, xiaomi, and oppo are terrible with giant bloated laggy OS's with badly optimized software, slow updates, and extremely high prices (huawei phones). Plus they have bad US customer support and no official rom support (oppo is looking to change this). ZTE and oneplus are the best chinese manufacturers for the US market

 
Nice. Another issue with those phones is they aren't sold through carriers, so I can't check them out in person ahead of time like I could the HTC 10 last summer at Verizon or T-Mobile (or Sprint). Plus I doubt ANY of those companies certify VoLTE with T-Mobile. LOL!
 
Yeah? So I have ZTE to thank eh? Hmm lol........................................................
 
Ok. I'll keep all that in mind. Thanks akg! lol
 
Mar 16, 2017 at 11:26 PM Post #230 of 327
   
Nice. Another issue with those phones is they aren't sold through carriers, so I can't check them out in person ahead of time like I could the HTC 10 last summer at Verizon or T-Mobile (or Sprint). Plus I doubt ANY of those companies certify VoLTE with T-Mobile. LOL!
 
Yeah? So I have ZTE to thank eh? Hmm lol........................................................
 
Ok. I'll keep all that in mind. Thanks akg! lol

Well I bet you that if you go to the t mobile website or a large store you WILL see mid ranger zte phones lol, not the axon though because that's a low cost high spec flagship and going through a carrier would be too expensive and raise the price drastically. 
 
Mar 17, 2017 at 11:42 AM Post #231 of 327
Honestly between all the headphones I tried, the Chord Mojo was easily the most impressive piece of kit I played with that day. I compared it to the iPhone 6 native line out & Dragonfly Red. It brought music to LIFE.

But the Blue sound good enough without it that I've decided to skip the cost and carry factor of Mojo+Ella and go with the iSine 20 for the portable DAC/Planar thing & plan on getting the Satellite for ANC. I'll spend a lot less money this way and the rigs will stay super portable/useful. Ordered the iSine last night.
 
Mar 17, 2017 at 12:18 PM Post #232 of 327
Honestly between all the headphones I tried, the Chord Mojo was easily the most impressive piece of kit I played with that day. I compared it to the iPhone 6 native line out & Dragonfly Red. It brought music to LIFE.

But the Blue sound good enough without it that I've decided to skip the cost and carry factor of Mojo+Ella and go with the iSine 20 for the portable DAC/Planar thing & plan on getting the Satellite for ANC. I'll spend a lot less money this way and the rigs will stay super portable/useful. Ordered the iSine last night.

 
Ok. Sounds good brotha! 
 
Let us know what you think of the Satellite WHENEVER Blue actually releases it. lol 
 
Mar 17, 2017 at 1:34 PM Post #234 of 327
Yup, I'll be a day 1 order and post my thoughts here when it arrives! (whenever that actually happens
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Ok sounds good. Though I won't buy it, I'm still interested in it. I have a friend who was looking for ANC headphones and for now I told him to get the Sony MDR-1000X, but I think he's still figuring things out. I'm hoping he doesn't get another one 'til the Satellite comes out so I can tell him to just get that. lol Of course your review will bear some influence on whether or not I suggest it, but I have a STRONG feeling it will be the best ANC wireless headphone in existence upon its release. Having a dedicated speaker driver for ANC and a second one just for sound (vs integrating them, which is what EVERYONE does, so this will be a first) is a fantastic idea, and since dedicated is ALWAYS better than integrated when it comes to sound, I am guessing compared to your other ANC headphones, these will come out on top. 
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 8:00 PM Post #235 of 327
Just picked up a pair of Ellas this week to see what all the fuss is about with these crazy looking planars - initial impressions: more comfortable than the Mo-Fi and Lola (owned both previously), beautiful crisp and clear sound and a pretty tight but restrained bass (coming from the Campfire Vega, so take that into account!) - definitely not a huge amount of sub-bass though. Pretty neutral through the mids and highs with very good clarity but there is something about the sound that pushes it towards musical rather than clinical - I haven't heard many planar cans yet (I'm mainly an IEM guy), but these definitely have a more engaging tonality than the Oppo PM-3.
 
Also, soundstage is very good in terms of sizing for a closed back can.
 
Will hopefully get round to writing up a proper review at some point, but these have definitely impressed me out of the box (so much so my Meze 99s have just been sold to start balancing the books so I can keep these!)
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 8:52 PM Post #236 of 327
  Just picked up a pair of Ellas this week to see what all the fuss is about with these crazy looking planars - initial impressions: more comfortable than the Mo-Fi and Lola (owned both previously), beautiful crisp and clear sound and a pretty tight but restrained bass (coming from the Campfire Vega, so take that into account!) - definitely not a huge amount of sub-bass though. Pretty neutral through the mids and highs with very good clarity but there is something about the sound that pushes it towards musical rather than clinical - I haven't heard many planar cans yet (I'm mainly an IEM guy), but these definitely have a more engaging tonality than the Oppo PM-3.
 
Also, soundstage is very good in terms of sizing for a closed back can.
 
Will hopefully get round to writing up a proper review at some point, but these have definitely impressed me out of the box (so much so my Meze 99s have just been sold to start balancing the books so I can keep these!)



Wow, awesome! Thanks for sharing Jackpot! 
 
Yeah everything you said is in line with what others on here and pro reviewers have said.................. very comfortable (I also had tried out the Lola), crisp clear sound, bass is present but VERY tightly controlled (same with Lola again), neutral etc. So you can hear ALL the detail in the highs with Ella? Try listening to some acoustic guitar music and see if you can hear all the "chimey" stuff too. That's something the Lola kinda lacked, but I have a STRONG feeling that the Ella's don't b/c they say Blue made some improvements with regards to the EQ tuning on them than what they'd done on the Mo-Fi or Lola. Also..........Ella being better than the PM-3 has been said a few times already, and I've tried those out too, or well, owned them for months b4 I realized they weren't as great as the reviews had said. lol And yes..............the Lola ALSO has a HUGE soundstage much like the AKG K55X headphones do. I was very impressed by that cuz a lot of the headphones I've tried don't, even some of the $300-$400 ones. 
 
Yes lookin' forward to that! 
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Apr 2, 2017 at 11:32 AM Post #239 of 327
So I became part of the small Blue Ella club this past week. I've had them for less than five days so please take all this with a big grain of salt :). This is only my very subjective opinion and could very well change when I spend more time with them.

The Blue Ella has a warm smooth natural and musical signature. People looking for a an overall bright signature with a sparkle treble should look elsewhere. They are non fatigue and I can listen for hours without any problem. Which leads me to comfort. I had trouble the first few days, they are a bit heavy with a relative strong clamp force. But I have slowly gotten used to them and now they are actually very comfortable.

For these impressions I have used my Ibasso DX200 and the HTC10. H10 can easily drive them but are also on the warm side, the DX200 are more neutral and for my ears have better synergy with the Ella. Of course this is not a night and day difference and the they do pair very well with the HTC 10. I don't think Ella's benefit with more power.

The bass is very well controlled and have enough quantity, maybe I would prefer slightly more subbass. Putting the amp on "on+" increases the bass. It's a nice setting to play with, but for bass heavy tracks the bass can get boomy and out of control and bleed into the other frequencys.

I couldn't really pinpoint the mids and highs the first few days. To begin with i thought the mids were recessed but I am not sure this is the case. Then it dawn on me :). I have heard this signature before, theye are very similar to my 64 Audio U12 Adel! Yes I know apple vs oranges...all differences a side, for my ears they have a very similar signature.

Member "subguy812" have written a very good review of the U12. I will quote his description of mids and treble here. This is exactly how I feel about the Blue Ella and I can't write it any better :). Link: http://www.head-fi.org/products/64-audio-u12-universal-in-ear-monitor

"Midrange:

The mids are clear and incredibly detailed but you will not realize this when you first listen to the U12, they appear to have a bit of a veil. With brain burn-in you realize there is not a veil at all it is how the frequencies are served up. The tone of all vocals shine and with male vocal sounding strong and females sounding sexy. The soundstage is good and the imaging was providing me with some occasional nice effect. The U12, have a warm, smooth, sound while creating space with the B1 module. In comparison the Solar are a bit cleaner and a bit more detailed sound out of the box. The U12 requires some getting used to in order to appreciate just what all is going on. If you dedicate the time you WILL be rewarded handsomely!

Treble:

Treble is delivered differently than any other IEM I have heard. It is certainly not the focus. It is restrained and included as part of the rest of the mix. It extends and is not lacking and not rolled off. It is just blended into the mix which creates an illusion that the treble is neutered. This one aspect has taken me the longest to grow accustomed to. It is a bit of a strange sound signature that had to grow on me longer than any IEM I have heard. They are so smooth, warm and never fatiguing. Never any sibilance or harshness. I can listen not fatigued for hours. In comparison I feel the Solar offers a more balanced sound and is clearly more sparkly than the U12. If you need a more sparkly treble I would say the Solar would be more to your liking."


Of course they are not 100 % identical, the U12 has more subbass and maybe because of that the Ella has slightly more clarity in the mids and highs.

Listening to Meridian - Breaking the Surface - The Bravest Face, this become very apperant. The recording is relatively dark with emphasis on drums and guitars. I think most people would prefer a bright headphone with this. My DT1990 is brighter and pair very well with this album. But I have to say I love it with both the U12 and Ella. :)

Queensryche - Promised Land - One More Time. Bright recording with emphasis on vocals (Geoff Tate). This doesn't pair well with the DT1990 but excellent with the Ella. Vocals in the center, guitars, drums, bass, upper right/left corner. Huge soundstage. :thumbsup:

Again please note, this is very early impressions, but I have to say the more I listen to Ella, the i more i like them!
 

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