PROJECT WA5+++: Power Up! Lets Rock and Roll!
Feb 5, 2017 at 11:23 PM Post #76 of 122
Nice find! 1950s tubes. Have fun. I have reissued and never could get myself to spend the $$ needed to get a pair of vintage version.
 
Feb 6, 2017 at 12:14 AM Post #77 of 122
Nice find! 1950s tubes. Have fun. I have reissued and never could get myself to spend the $$ needed to get a pair of vintage version.


I thought I had some luck be able to acquire these pairs. Actually, I managed to wait for a whole year for such offer, and my plan was the vintage tubes first then the tube amp. I would go to the WA5 only if I got a nice pairs of vintage WE300B. Thats why I had my tubes 3 months ago in Aug 2016, and I ordered my WA5 in Nov 2016 for a discounted season offer from Woo.
 
Feb 6, 2017 at 9:09 PM Post #78 of 122
My next trail is to remove all add-on enhancements, then plug in this WE300B/WE274A/TSRP tubes to the base setup WA5 for another 1-2 weeks about 20 hours impression, to explore the difference between the vintage and stock tubes.
 
After that, I would then load the add-on back and swap between the vintage and stock tubes again to learn the difference in impression.
 
Feb 7, 2017 at 2:28 AM Post #79 of 122
  Show Time! Tube Rolling for Impression!
 
Unboxing a match pairs WE300B & WE274A and TSRP & SYMB I collected 3 months ago before ordering my WA5.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Whoa!!!!!
 
Feb 7, 2017 at 10:14 AM Post #81 of 122
   
Whoa!!!!!

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Feb 7, 2017 at 9:55 PM Post #83 of 122
Having another tube set prepared and ready for rolling, they are a matched pairs Svetlana Electron Devices (SED) 300B tubes from 1998 and 5U3C rectifiers.
 
 


 

 

 
Feb 7, 2017 at 11:22 PM Post #84 of 122
So now I have three 300B power tubes - the stock Psvane, SED and WE; 6SN7 driver tubes - SYGTA, SYMB, TSRP; rectifiers - Psvane 5U4G, SED 5U3C and WE274A. As an initial exercise probably in the next 2-3 months time, my plan is to roll over all possible combinations (27 = 3 x 3 x 3) in additional to the three base sets of the stock all Psvane, all SED and all WE. I managed to experience all these tube character and difference between impression, and how WA5 would response to the change of tubes (my WA22 has a ratio of sensitivity at about Power:Driver:Rectifier=4:3:3 and WA6 SE Power/Driver:Rectifier=4:6).
 
I created the Tube Register and Impression Register matrix to be completed after the tube rolling exercise. It may take sometime to get familar with the conventions, but it gives a systematic reference to my impression to tube character and the overall effect delivered.
 
 
Tube Register
 
Tube Code
 
P=Power
D=Driver
R=Rectifier
Brand/ DescriptionComment/ Remark
P*WE 300B Vintage 1950s, D getter, matched date code 452 pairs
 
PCWE 300B Vintage 1950s, D getter, code USN-CW pairs
 
PDWE 300B Pairs in their 1960s with DD getter
 
P1Psvane 300B Stock, 2017
 
P2SV 300B Svetlana Electron Devices Inc. (SED) 1998, Russian
 
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D*Tung-Sol CTL 6SN7 GT TSRP - Tung-Sol Round Plate
 
D1Sylvania 6SN7 GTA Stock, black base
 
D2Sylvania CHS 6SN7 A/W SYMB - Sylvania Metal Base
 
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R*WE 274A Vintage 1950s, D getter, matched date code 539 pairs, adapter required for WA5
 
RGGlobe WE 274A Vintage WE 274A in ball shape ball shape, engraved base, adapter required for WA5
 
RBEngraved WE 274B Vintage WE 274B engraved base DD getter
 
R1Psvane 5U4G Stock, 2017
 
R25U3C Svetlana Russian
 
R3Marconi 5U4G/ U52 Vintage 1950s, flat tall bottle, black plate brown base
 
R4GEC 5U4G/ U52 Vintage, tall bottle, black plate, square disc getter
 
 
Feb 8, 2017 at 2:27 AM Post #85 of 122
Impression Register
 
Note that P1D1R1 refers to the stock tubes set with a reference ratings set to all 5, P*D*R* refers to the tubes set WE300B/TSRP/WE274A with a special reference ratings set to all 9.
 
Tube SetP*D*R*P*D*R1P*D*R2P*D1R*P*D1R1P*D1R2P*D2R*P*D2R1P*D2R2
Class

I=Inspiring
E=Enjoyed
C=Complete
I
C
C
C
?
?
E
?
?
Sound Staging / Space
9.0
6.5​
6.5​
6.5​
?​
?​
8.5​
?​
?​
Dynamic Response
9.0
6.5​
6.5​
7.0​
?​
?​
9.5​
?​
?​
Resolution of Tone
9.0
6.5​
6.5​
7.0​
?​
?​
9.0​
?​
?​
Resolution of Detail
9.0
6.5​
6.5​
7.0​
?​
?​
9.5​
?​
?​
Naturalness
9.0
6.5​
6.5​
6.5​
?​
?​
8.5​
?​
?​
Euphonic
9.0
6.5​
6.5​
7.0​
?​
?​
9.5​
?​
?​
 
Tube SetP1D*R*P1D*R1P1D*R2P1D1R*P1D1R1P1D1R2P1D2R*P1D2R1P1D2R2
Class
 
I=Inspiring
E=Enjoyed
C=Complete
E
?
?
?
C
?
E
?
?
Sound Staging / Space
7.5​
?​
?​
?​
5.0
?​
7.5​
?​
?​
Dynamic Response
7.5​
?​
?​
?​
5.0
?​
8.0​
?​
?​
Resolution of Tone
7.5​
?​
?​
?​
5.0
?​
8.0​
?​
?​
Resolution of Detail
7.5​
?​
?​
?​
5.0
?​
8.0​
?​
?​
Naturalness
7.5​
?​
?​
?​
5.0
?​
7.5​
?​
?​
Euphonic
7.5​
?​
?​
?​
5.0
?​
7.5​
?​
?​
 
Tube SetP2D*R*P2D*R1P2D*R2P2D1R*P2D1R1P2D1R2P2D2R*P2D2R1P2D2R2
Class

I=Inspiring
E=Enjoyed
C=Complete
E
C
I
?
?
E
C
C
C
Sound Staging / Space
8.0​
6.5​
7.5​
?​
?​
7.0​
8.0​
6.0​
6.5​
Dynamic Response
8.0​
6.5​
7.5​
?​
?​
7.0​
7.5​
6.0​
6.5​
Resolution of Tone
8.0​
6.5​
7.5​
?​
?​
7.0​
8.0​
6.0​
6.5​
Resolution of Detail
8.0​
6.5​
7.5​
?​
?​
7.0​
7.5​
6.0​
6,5​
Naturalness
8.0​
6.5​
7.5​
?​
?​
7.0​
8.0​
6.0​
6.5​
Euphonic
8.0​
6.5​
7.5​
?​
?​
7.0​
8.0​
6.0​
6.5​
 

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