Nice find! 1950s tubes. Have fun. I have reissued and never could get myself to spend the $$ needed to get a pair of vintage version.
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PROJECT WA5+++: Power Up! Lets Rock and Roll!
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Nice find! 1950s tubes. Have fun. I have reissued and never could get myself to spend the $$ needed to get a pair of vintage version.
I thought I had some luck be able to acquire these pairs. Actually, I managed to wait for a whole year for such offer, and my plan was the vintage tubes first then the tube amp. I would go to the WA5 only if I got a nice pairs of vintage WE300B. Thats why I had my tubes 3 months ago in Aug 2016, and I ordered my WA5 in Nov 2016 for a discounted season offer from Woo.
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My next trail is to remove all add-on enhancements, then plug in this WE300B/WE274A/TSRP tubes to the base setup WA5 for another 1-2 weeks about 20 hours impression, to explore the difference between the vintage and stock tubes.
After that, I would then load the add-on back and swap between the vintage and stock tubes again to learn the difference in impression.
After that, I would then load the add-on back and swap between the vintage and stock tubes again to learn the difference in impression.
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Show Time! Tube Rolling for Impression!
Unboxing a match pairs WE300B & WE274A and TSRP & SYMB I collected 3 months ago before ordering my WA5.
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Look forward to seeing these treasures to put into the amp!!
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Look forward to seeing these treasures to put into the amp!!
Welcome and thanks! I am preparing the setup, will share a picture gallery for that in the next few days.
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Having another tube set prepared and ready for rolling, they are a matched pairs Svetlana Electron Devices (SED) 300B tubes from 1998 and 5U3C rectifiers.
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So now I have three 300B power tubes - the stock Psvane, SED and WE; 6SN7 driver tubes - SYGTA, SYMB, TSRP; rectifiers - Psvane 5U4G, SED 5U3C and WE274A. As an initial exercise probably in the next 2-3 months time, my plan is to roll over all possible combinations (27 = 3 x 3 x 3) in additional to the three base sets of the stock all Psvane, all SED and all WE. I managed to experience all these tube character and difference between impression, and how WA5 would response to the change of tubes (my WA22 has a ratio of sensitivity at about Powerriver:Rectifier=4:3:3 and WA6 SE Power/Driver:Rectifier=4:6).
I created the Tube Register and Impression Register matrix to be completed after the tube rolling exercise. It may take sometime to get familar with the conventions, but it gives a systematic reference to my impression to tube character and the overall effect delivered.
Tube Register
I created the Tube Register and Impression Register matrix to be completed after the tube rolling exercise. It may take sometime to get familar with the conventions, but it gives a systematic reference to my impression to tube character and the overall effect delivered.
Tube Register
Tube Code P=Power D=Driver R=Rectifier | Brand/ Description | Comment/ Remark |
P* | WE 300B | Vintage 1950s, D getter, matched date code 452 pairs |
PC | WE 300B | Vintage 1950s, D getter, code USN-CW pairs |
PD | WE 300B | Pairs in their 1960s with DD getter |
P1 | Psvane 300B | Stock, 2017 |
P2 | SV 300B | Svetlana Electron Devices Inc. (SED) 1998, Russian |
--- | --- | --- |
D* | Tung-Sol CTL 6SN7 GT | TSRP - Tung-Sol Round Plate |
D1 | Sylvania 6SN7 GTA | Stock, black base |
D2 | Sylvania CHS 6SN7 A/W | SYMB - Sylvania Metal Base |
--- | --- | --- |
R* | WE 274A | Vintage 1950s, D getter, matched date code 539 pairs, adapter required for WA5 |
RG | Globe WE 274A | Vintage WE 274A in ball shape ball shape, engraved base, adapter required for WA5 |
RB | Engraved WE 274B | Vintage WE 274B engraved base DD getter |
R1 | Psvane 5U4G | Stock, 2017 |
R2 | 5U3C | Svetlana Russian |
R3 | Marconi 5U4G/ U52 | Vintage 1950s, flat tall bottle, black plate brown base |
R4 | GEC 5U4G/ U52 | Vintage, tall bottle, black plate, square disc getter |
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Impression Register
Note that P1D1R1 refers to the stock tubes set with a reference ratings set to all 5, P*D*R* refers to the tubes set WE300B/TSRP/WE274A with a special reference ratings set to all 9.
Note that P1D1R1 refers to the stock tubes set with a reference ratings set to all 5, P*D*R* refers to the tubes set WE300B/TSRP/WE274A with a special reference ratings set to all 9.
Tube Set | P*D*R* | P*D*R1 | P*D*R2 | P*D1R* | P*D1R1 | P*D1R2 | P*D2R* | P*D2R1 | P*D2R2 |
Class I=Inspiring E=Enjoyed C=Complete | I | C | C | C | ? | ? | E | ? | ? |
Sound Staging / Space | 9.0 | 6.5 | 6.5 | 6.5 | ? | ? | 8.5 | ? | ? |
Dynamic Response | 9.0 | 6.5 | 6.5 | 7.0 | ? | ? | 9.5 | ? | ? |
Resolution of Tone | 9.0 | 6.5 | 6.5 | 7.0 | ? | ? | 9.0 | ? | ? |
Resolution of Detail | 9.0 | 6.5 | 6.5 | 7.0 | ? | ? | 9.5 | ? | ? |
Naturalness | 9.0 | 6.5 | 6.5 | 6.5 | ? | ? | 8.5 | ? | ? |
Euphonic | 9.0 | 6.5 | 6.5 | 7.0 | ? | ? | 9.5 | ? | ? |
Tube Set | P1D*R* | P1D*R1 | P1D*R2 | P1D1R* | P1D1R1 | P1D1R2 | P1D2R* | P1D2R1 | P1D2R2 |
Class I=Inspiring E=Enjoyed C=Complete | E | ? | ? | ? | C | ? | E | ? | ? |
Sound Staging / Space | 7.5 | ? | ? | ? | 5.0 | ? | 7.5 | ? | ? |
Dynamic Response | 7.5 | ? | ? | ? | 5.0 | ? | 8.0 | ? | ? |
Resolution of Tone | 7.5 | ? | ? | ? | 5.0 | ? | 8.0 | ? | ? |
Resolution of Detail | 7.5 | ? | ? | ? | 5.0 | ? | 8.0 | ? | ? |
Naturalness | 7.5 | ? | ? | ? | 5.0 | ? | 7.5 | ? | ? |
Euphonic | 7.5 | ? | ? | ? | 5.0 | ? | 7.5 | ? | ? |
Tube Set | P2D*R* | P2D*R1 | P2D*R2 | P2D1R* | P2D1R1 | P2D1R2 | P2D2R* | P2D2R1 | P2D2R2 |
Class I=Inspiring E=Enjoyed C=Complete | E | C | I | ? | ? | E | C | C | C |
Sound Staging / Space | 8.0 | 6.5 | 7.5 | ? | ? | 7.0 | 8.0 | 6.0 | 6.5 |
Dynamic Response | 8.0 | 6.5 | 7.5 | ? | ? | 7.0 | 7.5 | 6.0 | 6.5 |
Resolution of Tone | 8.0 | 6.5 | 7.5 | ? | ? | 7.0 | 8.0 | 6.0 | 6.5 |
Resolution of Detail | 8.0 | 6.5 | 7.5 | ? | ? | 7.0 | 7.5 | 6.0 | 6,5 |
Naturalness | 8.0 | 6.5 | 7.5 | ? | ? | 7.0 | 8.0 | 6.0 | 6.5 |
Euphonic | 8.0 | 6.5 | 7.5 | ? | ? | 7.0 | 8.0 | 6.0 | 6.5 |
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