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Happy as a Pig in Schiit: Introducing Modi Multibit
Feb 23, 2017 at 2:38 AM Post #2,436 of 4,588
jimster480 said:
 
Yes you are right, its about 10% ebay fees and 2-3% paypal.
But shipping could be a factor too depending.
 
Either way you are going to lose some.
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This I agree; you will lose some no matter what. Best to have decided already before committing! (but still, having this 15 days return policy is a good back out option in case you ever need it. Also, this signals confidence on Schiit; something potential customers will like to see too)
 
Feb 23, 2017 at 2:43 AM Post #2,437 of 4,588
darkarn said:
This I agree; you will lose some no matter what. Best to have decided already before committing! (but still, having this 15 days return policy is a good back out option in case you ever need it. Also, this signals confidence on Schiit; something potential customers will like to see too)
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I don't disagree and this is why I have ordered a fulla 2 now.
This will be my first piece of Schiit :)
I will be comparing it against my FiiO K1 which is about $40.
And then for fun I'll compare it against the HTC 10 as well.
 
Feb 23, 2017 at 2:52 AM Post #2,438 of 4,588
If you return a purchase and move up in the Schiit product line they waive the restocking fee.  So then you are only out shipping....
 
Feb 23, 2017 at 4:44 AM Post #2,439 of 4,588
gvl2016 said:
   
I'm wondering that too, quite possible they shot themselves in the foot by releasing the Mimby.
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I don't think they see it as "shooting themselves in the foot." I think they see it as doing right by their customers, by providing the best possible product at the best possible price. 
 
Feb 23, 2017 at 7:30 AM Post #2,440 of 4,588
jimster480 said:
I don't disagree and this is why I have ordered a fulla 2 now.
This will be my first piece of Schiit
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I will be comparing it against my FiiO K1 which is about $40.
And then for fun I'll compare it against the HTC 10 as well.
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Nice, let's us know how it turns out!
 
mwsvette said:
  If you return a purchase and move up in the Schiit product line they waive the restocking fee.  So then you are only out shipping....
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That's a better option too haha :D
 
Feb 23, 2017 at 7:56 AM Post #2,441 of 4,588
ilcg1 said:


I had both Mimby and Bimby sitting at my desk for some time before I decided to sell Bimby. I don't think the price difference is justified between these two units. The cost was not an issue - it is just that to my ears Bimby is not an upgrade over Mimby - it is more of a side move.

In regards to its upgradability. Look at the original Bifrost owners who bought original Bifrost couple of years ago at $499, upgraded it later to USB 2 ($100) and UBER ($150). And later to Multibit for $250. Shipping for these two upgrades was probably $100 (CONUS). Basically their cost to date for Bifrost Multibit $1,100. When they sell it now even at $500 it is $600 loss (cost of use) over time.

Now take this $1,100 less Mimby of $250. There is $850 they could've used over the three years to spend on dacs (non-upgradable DS like Modi uber, Modi 2 uber - they still could've sold those for 50% of their original cost) with almost the same SQ and will still have he cash left.

I think the only thing that will save Bimby now is a balanced out to Jot, which looks like an expensive option if at all possible.

I'm still wondering how many Bimbys schiit sold after Mimbys release. Probably not many. These are just my $0.02.
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If Bifrost was not Upgradeable. $499 For Non USB 2.0 Bifrost Then Another $499 for USB 2.0, Then another 499 for Uber, then $650 for Bimby. It could be A more expensive path to stay current with out the upgrade option over $2K. So there Is Value there And If another Upgrade comes That Price Difference of Buying all new or Upgrading will spread even more.
 
To be Fair However the first gen Modi and Modi 2 Uber was not a Bifrost Uber Killer with my comparisons.In Pre Mimby days if you compared both lines there was a very noticeable difference and Bimby was a Game changer. Mimby was no where on the horizon for months. I am Mimby curious though and wonder If I do pull the trigger if my findings will be similar to yours.
 
Feb 23, 2017 at 8:42 AM Post #2,443 of 4,588
bigro said:
If Bifrost was not Upgradeable. $499 For Non USB 2.0 Bifrost Then Another $499 for USB 2.0, Then another 499 for Uber, then $650 for Bimby. It could be A more expensive path to stay current with out the upgrade option over $2K. So there Is Value there And If another Upgrade comes That Price Difference of Buying all new or Upgrading will spread even more.

To be Fair However the first gen Modi and Modi 2 Uber was not a Bifrost Uber Killer with my comparisons.In Pre Mimby days if you compared both lines there was a very noticeable difference and Bimby was a Game changer. Mimby was no where on the horizon for months. I am Mimby curious though and wonder If I do pull the trigger if my findings will be similar to yours.
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Yes and No at the same time - depending how you want to approach it. An owner always could've sold the previous Bifrost version at some loss (usually at 30-50%) and buy the next version. It will cost more than paying for an upgrade, but not dramatically more. That's why I'm not sold on Schiit's upgradability. As you can see below the difference is $50 only.



All I'm saying is that Bimby is a great value in DACs world, but not so in Schiit's DACs world with Mimby around. And I like that Schiit's products hold their value pretty well comparing to competition and that they don't do sales (even BF).
 
Feb 23, 2017 at 10:11 AM Post #2,444 of 4,588
rickb said:
  I don't think they see it as "shooting themselves in the foot." I think they see it as doing right by their customers, by providing the best possible product at the best possible price. 
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Actually, there's a bit more to it than just that. All humility aside, we produce more multibit DACs than anyone else for this market. There is a smattering of entry level 1x NonOverSampling style stuff and a few used to new car priced high, high end entries. This leaves me no option but to compete with myself. Seriously. As a believer in free markets being the best for both buyer and seller, competition results in the best for the most. Keeps me on my toes. Resting on laurels makes the whole line go stale.
 
Many on this thread have pronounced the mb Bifrost either dead or a poor value. I have a non production engineered Bifrost future model running which is absolutely hair raising. This will (when tamed down) will be offered as upgrades – you bet. Oh, and someone posted a Bifrost would cost $1200 if bought when first offered and steadily upgraded. Hmm, $240 per year over the Bifrost's life. Ten bucks less than a Multi-Modi per year. Twenty bucks a month. How much is Tidal? How often does the average guy change DACs?
 
So here's the bottom line: Modi Multis cater to those who want the best deal and want it right away. If you are willing to wait and willing to spend half to a fraction of what you spend on streaming or physical media on your DAC, a Bifrost will be a much better value over time.
 
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