[MuZo2]

If someone can give me a walkthrough on the proper basics of using the Veritas (the quick start helps but I have so many questions), it can help me get a graph of mine. My free time is very limited so I apologize for not learning sooner.

 
http://diy.vibrolabs.com/pages/veritas-guide
 
 

 

[FUYU]

So should we officially consider that the hype is dead ? My pair is still on it's way. I will try to comment after I recieve. It these are going to be bassier than Sony Z5 then it would be ridiculous.

Well, my pair does sound rather balanced. I can't really report much of that warm sound some are talking about.

 

[ChickenButcher]

I have a feeling that there are many different versions of the qt5 after seeing their official taobao website (https://world.taobao.com/item/524515351205.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4004-1422448803.2.iMTIdr)... perhaps that explains the different opinions
 
Based on their official site, buyers can select "4 BA + 1", "3BA +1" or "custom tuning"
 
Also, I found that there is a 2BA version (z2015) which uses the same housing but comes in either gold, grey, or silver
link: https://world.taobao.com/item/523976352321.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4004-1422448803.16.iMTIdr

 

[crabdog]

I ordered the z2016 (2BA + 1) and was particularly interested to see how it sounded after the qt5 drama buuuut they departed from China on the 16th or 18th (different on AE and 17track) and haven't showed up on Thailand Post yet.
 
So I have a feeling I'll never see them because every other order has showed up on ThPost 1-2 days after leaving Guangzhou. Will wait and see and if they show up I'll post impressions/review. If not I guess I'll wait another 47 days and get my refund...

 

[SeeSax]

  You got the better end of the deal Scott.
 
Well the QT5s arrived.  I'll give myself a couple of days - but I'm not going to enjoy this little exercise.
 
They're clear enough - but the mid-range seems sucked out, and quite hollow.  Bass is OK - a bit elevated.  Soundstage is Ok - typical for an IEM and not overly spacious. My guess is that there is a massive hole or dislocation in the upper mids (female vocals are incredibly bad) - or that there is something funky going on between upper and lower mid transitions.  Whole thing sounds muffled, out of tune (quite grating really) - I think dissonant would be the word.
 
Cable is really poorly put together.
 
Honestly - if I was to give a rating on these right now (for $300) - these would be 1-2 stars.  And yes  - this pair really is that bad. It was a relief to take them out of my ears.
 
The only thing I'd hope is that one of the pairs of BAs is shorted - and that its a QC issue. Because honestly if anyone intentionally tuned an earphone like this, they need to find another profession.

 
Your impressions, which were put into words much better than I managed to, mirror my impressions of the IEMs exactly. 

 

[SeeSax]

  So should we officially consider that the hype is dead ? My pair is still on it's way. I will try to comment after I recieve. It these are going to be bassier than Sony Z5 then it would be ridiculous.

 
I've been listening to my XBA-A3s while I wait for my pair to come back from bhazard and while I've only heard my own, I cannot imagine they will have more bass than the Z5. The A3 has TONS more bass than my QT5s do. It's more of a lack of mid-range that bothers me on mine. The bass was actually quite pleasant. A/B with my A3s make the Sonys sound pretty bassy. Hope this helps. 
 
-Collin-

 

[LMka]

My only hope is that I could negotiate that I could return this if I completely do not like them.
 
I tend to like dark IEM, like Earsonics SM3/SM64 or Audio-Technica IM-04 so warmness should not be the issue for me. However, I do not really like bloated bass at all.
 
Other than that there are iems like Sennheiser ie800 or AKG K3003, in my opinion both of these are a complete waste of money as they are simply horribly sounding. 
 
So, I won't expect any miracles. I just hope that they arrive in one piece.

 

[LMka]

   
I've been listening to my XBA-A3s while I wait for my pair to come back from bhazard and while I've only heard my own, I cannot imagine they will have more bass than the Z5. The A3 has TONS more bass than my QT5s do. It's more of a lack of mid-range that bothers me on mine. The bass was actually quite pleasant. A/B with my A3s make the Sonys sound pretty bassy. Hope this helps. 
 
-Collin-

That's great news. I've also had XBA-A3 before I swapped them for Z5 so your feedback calms me down a little bit
 
Speaking of mid-range - do we have main issues with the lower-mids or upper-mids? I remember a lot of ppl were complaining of SM64 not having upper-mids but I found them quite soft because of that.
 
Also I plan to use my Meizu MX4 Pro as the main source, which is based on ESS9018K2M, this DAC has a slight upper-mids bump which makes my Z5 sound a little overly bright from time to time. Maybe these two pair well together, who knows.

 

[bhazard]

   
http://diy.vibrolabs.com/pages/veritas-guide
 
 

Do I measure with tips on or off, or measure both?

 

[MuZo2]

Using tips. You can check more info here.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/782241/vibro-veritas-in-ear-monitor-home-measuring-device-reviews-and-impressions-by-brooko-twister6-hisoundfi/45

 

[Joe17]

Interestingly enough, my pair would measure closer to audio's/Brooko' measurements, but Seesax's won't.

If someone can give me a walkthrough on the proper basics of using the Veritas (the quick start helps but I have so many questions), it can help me get a graph of mine. My free time is very limited so I apologize for not learning sooner.

The midrange being sucked out was the sound I heard before fixing mine. If vocals are hard to hear and muffled, this indicates a driver isn't working or something isn't right. I actually sent back my first pair because of this thinking it was defective (it was if it sounds like that). The second pair exhibited the same behavior until I physically caused an imbalance by playing with the housing one side at a time. The hollow muffled mids became clear.

Brooko, does audio's pair have clear vocals? If not, being defective is highly likely. If they are clear, it's less likely the case.

The one recording where things sound bloated bass into mids on mine is a 192k mp3 album of Megadriver-Metalhog (video game metal of Sega music). This bloat does not exist on the Shockwave 3. This isn't a very good quality recording, so I thought it was more the album's fault at the time. The bass actually adds a nice touch to everything else.

TwinACstacks heard my pair and didn't much like it either, it came back to me the same way it was sent.

Which then leaves Seesax's pair, which sounds a little different than mine. We debated if mine is off or if his is. We still don't really know.

So yes, right now until there is more consistency, a wait and see approach is best if you want to avoid some risk.

 
@bhazard
 I think you should’ve been kind of professional. From the curve of Brooko’s test, L/R curves are the same. So there can be no damage of the earphone itself, but the original design of the curve. I also have QT5 and in a minute I’ll upload the curve spectrum of QT5, which has the same tested curve as Brooko. It fully shows that QT5 itself is an unqualified product. I have no idea why you wrote such inauthentic reviews.

 

[TwinACStacks]

   
 I think you should’ve been kind of professional. From the curve of Brooko’s test, L/R curves are the same. So there can be no damage of the earphone itself, but the original design of the curve. I also have QT5 and in a minute I’ll upload the curve spectrum of QT5, which has the same tested curve as Brooko. It fully shows that QT5 itself is an unqualified product. I have no idea why you wrote such inauthentic reviews.

 
 

In Bhazard's defense, a frequency plot ONLY indicates under perfect conditions WHAT the test item is capable of producing and what you should hear. There is a HUGE disparrity in human anatomy and perception of hearing that goes along with it. I sometimes personally hear different results than what graphs present. It's why I don't use them in my own reviews as I feel that reviews are just personal opinion, and certainly nothing written in stone.
 
PLUS: There is always the case of "Brain Burn in" as well. Where your hearing becomes "adjusted" to a certain overall sound. Which could well be the case in the reviews of this IEM rather than irregularities in Manufacturing. I prefer to give the benefit of a doubt.
 
JMHO
 

TWIN

 

[bhazard]

   
 I think you should’ve been kind of professional. From the curve of Brooko’s test, L/R curves are the same. So there can be no damage of the earphone itself, but the original design of the curve. I also have QT5 and in a minute I’ll upload the curve spectrum of QT5, which has the same tested curve as Brooko. It fully shows that QT5 itself is an unqualified product. I have no idea why you wrote such inauthentic reviews.

It's not inauthentic, it's exactly what I heard and felt, and I'm not the only one. I have listened to hundreds of IEMs so I have a decent idea of what I'm doing, my sound signature preferences, and what to look for.
 
I also know that I a/b'ed Seesax's pair it and doesn't sound the same as mine, plus I also sent my pair to someone else to listen. I've also recommended for people to hold off right now to find out what's going on, because there seem to be a lot of variances and possibly defective pairs. Why would I do that if I was being inauthentic?
 
Please provide more information, because someone was just banned for being unethical in their reviews (which had visual and logged evidence), and you have 1 post.

 

[SeeSax]

   
 I think you should’ve been kind of professional. From the curve of Brooko’s test, L/R curves are the same. So there can be no damage of the earphone itself, but the original design of the curve. I also have QT5 and in a minute I’ll upload the curve spectrum of QT5, which has the same tested curve as Brooko. It fully shows that QT5 itself is an unqualified product. I have no idea why you wrote such inauthentic reviews.

 
Having purchased the set himself and providing his honest feedback and then even testing mine against his A/B to be certain is without question an honest, authentic review. Are you also questioning Paulus' review, who also gave these IEMs very favorable marks? No doubt something is going on in the QT5 factory, but I would never question bhazard on his review as he is one of the most honest people I have crossed paths with on these forums. He also spends his own money on them and has absolutely nothing to gain or lose by a fair, unbiased review. 
 
-Collin-

 

[Lurk650]

Yeah I have no doubts in Hazards review b/c its his personal hearing...now what I do have doubts about is the quality of products from this company, or at least this IEM. I guess its similar to the Tenores