New Dragonfly Black and Red Discussion
May 1, 2016 at 2:53 PM Post #31 of 5,077
if anyone has a chord mojo, and has compared it with the dragonfly red, then
that would be a most interesting posting.
 
john darko, in his reply to me on the review of the red, when i asked him
if there was a big diff said simply 'yes the mojo is a significant step up'.
of course it's 3x the price, and chord has done so much magic (custom chips
listening theory expertise etc)...but will be interesting to see this, eventually.
 
May 1, 2016 at 2:59 PM Post #32 of 5,077
if anyone has a chord mojo, and has also able to compare it with the dragonfly red, then
that would be a most interesting posting.

john darko, in his reply to me on the review of the red, when i asked him
if there was a big diff said simply 'yes the mojo is a significant step up'
of course it's 3x the price, and chord has done so much magic (custom chips
listening theory expertise etc)...but will be interesting to see this, eventually.


The Mojo is in a different league sound wise. However, it is as you said 3 x more expensive.

The Red has further advantages over the Mojo in terms of portability and not needing to be recharged.

I spent 3 hours listening with it. I need more time but it does make a difference. Better separation. Pulled out more info on some of the tracks. Clearer. Using USB Audio Player Pro the volume levels with both headphones (Oppo PM-3/Sennheiser HD598se) were plentiful. I tried loads of different genres too.

I also have an Oppo HA-2 and iBasso D-zero MK2, so will test that with both of these as well.

I am pleased with my Dragonfly Red.
 
May 1, 2016 at 3:02 PM Post #33 of 5,077
The Mojo is in a different league sound wise. However, it is as you said 3 x more expensive.

The Red has further advantages over the Mojo in terms of portability and not needing to be recharged.

I spent 3 hours listening with it. I need more time but it does make a difference. Better separation. Pulled out more info on some of the tracks. Clearer. Using USB Audio Player Pro the volume levels with both headphones (Oppo PM-3/Sennheiser HD598se) were plentiful. I tried loads of different genres too.

I also have an Oppo HA-2 and iBasso D-zero MK2, so will test that with both of these as well.

I am pleased with my Dragonfly Red.

thanks....appreciate that.
 
i already have the iFi micro iDSD for home use (with ipurifier 2 and my  headphone tube amp...laptop is my main music source).
 
Red might be sufficient for me, then...afterall I would be using the dragonfly red or mojo strictly for strictly portable use (as in walking around listening to music....or when sitting in whole foods eating area or local cafe)...so this means lots of ambient noise...and thus the listening environment won't be as ideal as when listening at home....guess i'm trying to talk myself out of spending 3x more for the mojo ...plus it's more bulky and doesn't truly fit what i define as 'portable' user friendly 
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  (read: no stacks for me...no bulk, want as light as possible and can't detect it's weight/bulk when walking around)
 
May 1, 2016 at 3:11 PM Post #34 of 5,077
I've had both; I sold my Mojo....

I wouldn't say the the Mojo gives you anywhere near x3 the performance. I personally I prefer the pairing of the red with my AQ Nighthawks & it's only from that point of view I can comment.

With those particular HF's, for me, you can throw a hat over them in terms of clarity/detailing & staging. The bass doesn't extend down as well on the red as the mojo but I think the red (again with the Nighthawks in mind), offers a bit more clarity in the mids.

The red is obviously brighter (not in a bad way), where the mojo is warmer/smoother. As such the red might be just (& I mean just), a touch more fatiguing.

I'd keep them both if I could justify it but as something I can use at home (with a Schiit Magni 2U), that works sooo well with the Nighthawks and that I can use as an inline device on the go - the red is better for my needs.
 
May 1, 2016 at 6:06 PM Post #35 of 5,077
Just trying the Red with my Dunu Titan 5 in ear headphones. A good pairing so far. Just make sure you start with a super low volume and don't adjust it too much especially if listening to classical music that has lots of ups and downs. The Red has a lot of scale.
 
May 1, 2016 at 6:25 PM Post #36 of 5,077
Reading the posts, should I get the feeling that Red might be too powerful if only using IEM's? Thank you.
 
May 1, 2016 at 6:45 PM Post #37 of 5,077
The Red works fine with the iem's I've pared it with so far, Noble 3 and Westone W40, had to lower the volume a little but not too much,
 
May 1, 2016 at 8:37 PM Post #38 of 5,077
Dunu DN-2000J and Mee Audio A151p 2nd Gen. sound great with the Red.
 
Here are some quick impressions using my Galaxy S6 Active>DN-2000J with and without Red.
 
Without
-No detectable hiss or noise.
-No EMI.
-A bit less resolution up top
-Harsher highs. Sssibilance.
-More mid-bass presence.
-Less energy.
-More 2-dimensional sound stage.
 
With
-Slight hum when music is silent, but only noticeable if you're listening for it.
-No EMI. 
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-Crystal clear and sparkly treble.
-No harshness and sibilance is ELIMINATED(confirmed this by listening to a couple NPR podcasts).
-Less mid-bass and bass presence overall. It still goes pretty deep, but less oomph.
-Very energetic, almost aggressive signature.
-Wider sound stage with more depth.
 
Galaxy S6 Active

 
Galaxy S6 Active + Dragonfly Red

 
May 2, 2016 at 3:12 AM Post #39 of 5,077
Right time to try my Sony XBA-1 in ears. These are a nightmare pair of headphones but when your pair them correctly they are magical. Truly magical.

So say hello to the magical pairing so far of the Red to the XBA-1 :)

Very happy about this.
 
May 2, 2016 at 7:42 AM Post #41 of 5,077
The Red definitely benefits from burn in. I've had it running non stop today. There is a tiny amount of warmth (not heat) now. It's really mellowed. Bass has improved. Separation, clarity, instruments etc are more refined.
 
May 3, 2016 at 7:07 AM Post #44 of 5,077
Yesterday I made some comparisons between my headphone out and the Red.
Note, that the phone used is a Xiaomi Redmi 3 so when comparing RRP, ignoring import fees and shipping costs for the phone, the dragonfly costs the double of the transport used.
 
 
I got out the Shure SRH 840 I once bought for mixing and mastering. Unfortunately we recorded only one song and this was three years back.
Having heard this headphone only from my m-audio pro fire 610 recording interface and remembered it to have piercing highs in that setup.
With that impression written to my memory I do not find the Red overly bright. It think it is less bright than the Gungnir (still the S/D) used in my speaker system. Nevertheless high frequencies are present and it is able to produce a nice texture on cymbals.
 
Compared to the headphone out of my phone I witnessed much better separation clarity and detail.
Using the Red I could pin point when new instruments appeared in the arrangement. Without it, I usually noticed those voices only when they reached their full volume.
Especially the lower registers had more texture. The Red reached lower  and was more precise in the bass department.
 
When comparing I often had to force myself to unplug the Red from my phone. Contrarily, I often wanted to stop a track early, when listening straight from my phone, so I could switch back to the Dragonfly.
Possibly there will be further impressions , when my Ei.XX arrive.
 
May 3, 2016 at 7:28 PM Post #45 of 5,077
This post made my ears perk up.
 
Omg I'm losing my mind listening to the new Dragonfly Red hooked up to my iPhone...........sounds better than the original Dragonfly and damn, I'd even pick it over my Mojo-straight out the box with no burn in, this thing is fantastic!

 

 

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