pkcpga said:

Why would you warm the dfr or any plug and play portable DAC up before measuring, that's not a realistic way that 99% of people would use the device? It's a portable plug and play device that's been advertised to use quickly on the go, so the numbers will be more realistic to the way it's being used if you take measurements a few minutes after starting up.

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I actually use the DFR on the go, without any warming up. But if you compare two devices, you should give them the same chances, both being warmed up or both with a 'cold start'.

Hi,
 
New Red owner here. Using it with my Shure 846's. Only been using it a few hours and it still feels a little veiled to me but at times I feel something really amazing shinning through. Maybe just getting used to the sound but I do feel like it's slowly starting to settle in.
 
One question.
 
When using it with my MacBook in the midi settings it only ever shows 24bit. I'm playing 16bit, does this matter or is it just the frequency that matters?
 
Regards,
Simon

I did test both warmed up for about 24 hours. I think the problem was with streaming tidal over Roon. I can't replicate the issue using the TIDAL PC standalone application.  

Although the red may also benefit with a warm up, it generally doesn't run hot like the GO1k. I didn't notice as much differences with the df warmed up vs the go1k

Hello all,
 
Tried my Red on my iPhone 7 this morning with their Lightning to USB camera adaptor. Getting all kinds of pops in the music?
Any ideas?

There is a section on it on the Audioquest dragon fly faqs sections. There answer is 
 

 In some rare instances, the combination of an iOS device in conjunction with the standard CCK and DragonFly Black or Red causes a clicking in the background of the music.
 
Neither we nor Apple have been able to determine why that is, but in circumstances where this occurs we’ve found that using Apple’s Lightning to USB 3.0 Camera Connection Kit resolves the problem. In addition, this connector offers improved audio performance over the smaller unit and gives the end user the ability to charge their iOS device while listening to music.

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recon56 said:

  There is a section on it on the Audioquest dragon fly faqs sections. There answer is 
 

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Grrrr. Wish I'd known that before buying the cable.

simonpickard said:

   
Grrrr. Wish I'd known that before buying the cable.

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I have an iPhone 7 and DFR and using standard CCK. I have not experienced the clicking on the DFR but have experienced with other DACs. In those cases, I think there is a problem syncing the PCM sampling rates and depends on what music player you are using. I only use Apple Music, iAudiogate, and Onkyo HF and no issues with those. If you are using another player, that could be the problem.

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I have an iPhone 7 and DFR and using standard CCK. I have not experienced the clicking on the DFR but have experienced with other DACs. In those cases, I think there is a problem syncing the PCM sampling rates and depends on what music player you are using. I only use Apple Music, iAudiogate, and Onkyo HF and no issues with those. If you are using another player, that could be the problem.

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I don't think so.  I had the problem described.  To begin with the punch line, the solution in the FAQ worked for me.  But here is the testing I did:
 
I have a DFR and a DFB.  I also have an iPhone 6S, an iPhone 5S and two older iPads.  I only had the problem with the 6S where I heard intermittent clicking with both the DFR and the DFB using iTunes, LMS/iPeng and Tidal (although LMS seemed a bit worse than the others).

Hi,
 
Yeah I'm just using Apple Music for my player. Continue to get the pops and clicks. No issues at all on my Mac.

i have Audioengine D3 USB DAC  .
Anyone please compare with DF Red/Black ??

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  i have Audioengine D3 USB DAC  .
Anyone please compare with DF Red/Black ??

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i tested the d3 last year, and have tested the red. the red is the better unit imo.
 
the audioengine is a great device but, audioquest really nailed it.

I bought the red and tried them on my new iphone 7 plus and hear constant clicking noises.
 
The response from audioquest:
"In some rare instances, the combination of an iOS device in conjunction with the standard CCK and DragonFly Black or Red causes a clicking in the background of the music.
 
Neither we nor Apple have been able to determine why that is, but in circumstances where this occurs we’ve found that using Apple’s Lightning to USB 3.0 Camera Connection Kit resolves the problem. In addition, this connector offers improved audio performance over the smaller unit and gives the end user the ability to charge their iOS device while listening to music."
 
irritates me.  First, why should the other cable have better audio performance? 44.1/16 is 44.1/16  Second, why is this not mentioned more prominently on their website...apple cables are not quit cheap.   Third, I am quite pissed at Apple too, because the red is working without problems on my Mac.  If you get rid of the audio connector at least make the other options right in the first place.
 
Currently, I can not recommend the combination iphone and Dragonfly red.  Too bad, I really like their sound.

Has anyone compiled a list with working combo dragonfly black/red and android phone?
 
I think that'd be helpful and I wouldn't like to do the grunt work if someone else already has done it.

Just got my red yesterday and was comparing it back to back with chord mojo for hours listening to same tracks and I've just decided to return mojo. I don't want to have a whole bunch of dacs and one dac that will be used as desktop and portable ocassionaly should be good enough for me.

I used both dacs with Westone UM Pro 50, with UE buffer jack and I have to say that to my ears sound quality was very similar. I couldn't really tell if I liked Mojo over red or vv and judging buy the red's 1/3 price of mojo I decided to leave red and return mojo.

Initially I bought Sony pha-1a (after comparing it to oppo ha-2) - sold it later. Bought Chord Mojo based on reviews only and hype train (chu-chu) - really liked it, however didn't like the form factor and the price (even though I can easily afford it). I came across Darko's review of Audioquest dragonflies and decided to try them. Went to local dealer and after listening to both red and black I liked red's sound better.

My Westone UM Pro 50 are good enough on their own straight from Iphone (with UE bigger jack), however I wanted to get a little more out of them. After months of trials I can say that at least for now dragonfly red is a sweet spot for me in terms of SQ and price to be used with my Westone's.