Not to be a hole in the butt - but can we curb the Mojo talk on this thread? There's already a dedicated thread to talk its merits/connections/cables/sound/etc to your heart's content.
 
I'm sure people here don't mind occasional comparisons between Mojo and DFR/DFB...but dedicating posts to ONLY talking about Mojo is steering things off topic and burying the info people are looking for.
 
Thanks.

searchofsub said:

Anyone know if Mojo upsamples? or is this the same case with Mojo..

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The mojo plays what you put into it as well, but up to 32/368 or something. So above anything you can find today. It uses a multi DAC technology so it sounds more separated and detailed than a standard DAC.

pkcpga said:

The mojo plays what you put into it as well, but up to 32/368 or something. So above anything you can find today. It uses a multi DAC technology so it sounds more separated and detailed than a standard DAC.

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ah, so it does NOT upsample. So then the Mojo is sold, and I am getting myself a DFR. I am currently trying to downsize on headphone gear. (not necessarily sound but cost). This was deciding factor for me. TY.

brent75 said:

Not to be a hole in the butt - but can we curb the Mojo talk on this thread? There's already a dedicated thread to talk its merits/connections/cables/sound/etc to your heart's content.

I'm sure people here don't mind occasional comparisons between Mojo and DFR/DFB...but dedicating posts to ONLY talking about Mojo is steering things off topic and burying the info people are looking for.

Thanks.

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No more. Happy listening.

searchofsub said:

ah, so it does NOT upsample. So then the Mojo is sold, and I am getting myself a DFR. I am currently trying to downsize on headphone gear. (not necessarily sound but cost). This was deciding factor for me. TY.

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Frankly I think you'd be making a mistake there. I own both the DFR and the Mojo, and while the DFR is fantastic for it's price point, the Mojo is something else entirely.

Also don't get worked up about upsampling as a listener to the end product. Yes, we upsample, both in bit depth and sample frequency, in a production environment for various reasons, but these reasons are not applicable to the end user.

If what you have is a 16/44.1 file then it's best left as a 16/44.1.

Seriously, upsampling at the user end is a total waste of time as at best you cannot create more information than what there is already, and at worse you can downgrade the sound quality due to iffy upsampling algorithms.

I actually just sold the Mojo, and the turned around and refunded the money back to him hours later with an apology note. It just sounds too damn good to let go. Oh well, there is always next time DFR.

searchofsub said:

I actually just sold the Mojo, and the turned around and refunded the money back to him hours later with an apology note. It just sounds too damn good to let go. Oh well, there is always next time DFR.

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OK - five or so posts after being respectfully asked to take the Mojo discussion elsewhere, yours is post 5/5 about the Mojo, I completely get comparisons with other dongle DACs, particularly those that compete in the same price ballpark, but the Mojo is a completely different creation from the FPGA design to its input/output array. As a former Hugo owner, I'm a massive fan of Rob Watts' work and his willingness to engage with this community, but there's a place for discussion of the Mojo and it's not in this thread.
 
If I can steer this discussion back on thread, my next project is to get MPD running on a headless RasbPi with the DFB doing 'renderer' duties 24/7 into an external amp. I have no idea how noisy the Pi's USB ports are - at the low asking price we're clearly dealing with the cheapest parts they could find - but using a DAC that requires no other power source (and was specifically designed to run from low power devices) makes sense to my way of thinking. The ability to completely hide everything before the amp tickles my innner geek almost as much as the prospect of having an embedded, fanless server dedicated to music playback for what amounts to spare change for many audiophiles. More to follow.

spidernhan said:

  I stand corrected. I only had a few minutes to play with BubbleUPnP before I had to work yesterday. lombardox is right. You get full UAPP functionality while using BubbleUPnP. I just hadn't come to grips to properly using the new software yet.
 
The proper steps are:
 
1) Connect Dragonfly to device
2) Allow USB Audio Player Pro to access device
3) Press the 3 dot menu and select "Start UPnP renderer
4) Open BubbleUPnP
5) Select UAPP as local renderer
6) Enjoy newfound streaming goodness.
 
I was missing a step there when I first started playing with it, but everything works as it should.

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I've been searching high and low for a solution to get Google Play to work through my DFB - working like a charm having followed these steps, many thanks mate!

mightygrey said:

  I've been searching high and low for a solution to get Google Play to work through my DFB - working like a charm having followed these steps, many thanks mate!

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Hey I wanted to pop in here and say that the DFR sounds surprisingly good as a DAC only being run as a line out into my amp. I'm running into the amp section of my Aune T1 because I can't live without the physical volume knob when I'm at my desk. I'll be hooking it up to an iFi iCan Micro soon though.

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If I can steer this discussion back on thread, my next project is to get MPD running on a headless RasbPi with the DFB doing 'renderer' duties 24/7 into an external amp. I have no idea how noisy the Pi's USB ports are - at the low asking price we're clearly dealing with the cheapest parts they could find - but using a DAC that requires no other power source (and was specifically designed to run from low power devices) makes sense to my way of thinking. The ability to completely hide everything before the amp tickles my innner geek almost as much as the prospect of having an embedded, fanless server dedicated to music playback for what amounts to spare change for many audiophiles. More to follow.

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The Pi works well with the DFB and I've had no noticeable issues running it straight from the Pi's USB port. Hook it up to a portable battery pack and you have a mobile player, add a bluetooth remote and you can skip tracks, change volume, pause and play without needing to use another device to control MPD (obviously would need a front end on the Pi). You could create a relatively cheap DAP using the Pi/DF.

west0ne said:

The Pi works well with the DFB and I've had no noticeable issues running it straight from the Pi's USB port. Hook it up to a portable battery pack and you have a mobile player, add a bluetooth remote and you can skip tracks, change volume, pause and play without needing to use another device to control MPD (obviously would need a front end on the Pi). You could create a relatively cheap DAP using the Pi/DF.

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Thanks for that - undeniably a relatively cheap 'DAP' but even my Lenovo tablet has a better form factor !   

estreeter said:

   
Thanks for that - undeniably a relatively cheap 'DAP' but even my Lenovo tablet has a better form factor ! 

 

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You're not wrong. I actually use a cheap Windows tablet with my DFB sometimes. Has the benefits of streaming, Foobar, Equalizer APO, built in battery and screen for interface interaction. The only thing is, getting the Pi up and running is more satisfying because you are more involved in the process. The Pi is also undeniably cheap which is the important bit.

sebontheweb said:

OK. Thank you. I have just check with the iPad Air and no problem at all. It seems you are right : the iPhone 6s is responsible of the problem.

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OK, problem solved by using airplane mode on the iPhone 6s. No more interferences, no more crackling noises.

Audioquest Dragonfly RED 5/5 stars at Whathifi.com. Nice!