Rockbox Xduoo X3
Mar 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM Post #1,472 of 2,617
I used to get panic errors on old versions...but on the latest one before the current version. ...think it was like the 12th??? Anyway, when that came out, I deleted my rockbox folder and did a fresh install. ...never had a crash since and haven't had to change disk cache or anything like that. It all just works now :)
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 5:41 PM Post #1,473 of 2,617
Wow, sounds like I need to upgrade. I'm still on version 170219.
 
Update: I just updated from 170219 to the latest 170317. The font files were all missing, so I went back 10 or so pages to make sure I didn't miss anything, and XVortex said you have to apply the FULL update to get the missing theme and font files. Well, I went back and did that, and the font files are there now. But somehow the voices turned on by themselves and my WPS theme changed itself to the Hi-Fi theme. I was able to turn off the voice prompts, but when I try and change the WPS to any other theme, it immediately crashes with the error:
 
*PANIC*
Exception occurred:
TLB Exception (Log Id or Ifetch)
[0x00000000] at 0x00000000 (stack at 0x800001688)
 
I prefer cabbiev2 because it's the only one that can display the total # of files in a playlist over 999. I wish Hi-Fi displayed it properly, because I like the look and some of the information in Hi-Fi better.
 
I've rebooted numerous times. I've made sure I applied the update properly by deleting the whole .rockbox folder and unzipping the new folder from the zip file. And I've made verified the theme files are located in the \.rockbox\themes folder like they are supposed to be.
 
User Figuto reported CFG & WPS themes not working here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/803844/rockbox-xduoo-x3/1395#post_13332172
 
Could anyone else please try and change their CFG or WPS theme (even temporarily) and report back if it works or not?
 
Thanks,
- Slater
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 11:14 PM Post #1,474 of 2,617
OK, I didn't solve the problem, but I found a workaround.
 
To change the WPS (While Playing Screen) or Base Skin files, just edit the \.rockbox\config.cfg in a text browser (notepad, etc). No locate the following lines:
 
wps: /.rockbox/wps/Hi-Fi.wps
sbs: /.rockbox/wps/Hi-Fi.sbs
 
And change the lines to whatever you want. You can use the built-in cabbiev2 theme, or you can get a new one from the Rockbox site.
 
I tried a bunch of the Sansa Clip+ themes (http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=sansaclipplus), and was able to find some really nice Base Skins and WPSs. I'm sooo glad I did. The ones I'm using now are cleaner, easier to read, cooler looking, etc than the 2 built-in ones. There's really simple themes, nerd overload themes, large text themes, alternate language themes, and even 'themed' themes (Pac-Man, Pokemon, Star Trek, Aliens, etc).
 
     
 
Check them out on that link - there's probably 75 different ones. They're really easy to change (even with themes being broken at the moment). You simply download the .zip files, and extract the files to the .rockbox folder. The new themes will be put in the .rockbox\themes folder, and the new WPS will be put into the .rockbox\wps folder.
 
Then you just edit the \.rockbox\config.cfg in a text browser (notepad, vi, etc) and change the appropriate lines to what you want.
 
After trying 15 of them, I narrowed it down to 2 in particular - Sweet and Balanced
 
So for example, to use Sweet you would change the lines
 
wps: /.rockbox/wps/Hi-Fi.wps
sbs: /.rockbox/wps/Hi-Fi.sbs
 
to
 
wps: /.rockbox/wps/Sweet.wps
sbs: /.rockbox/wps/Sweet.sbs
 
and save the config.cfg file.
 
3 things to be careful on is:
 
1.) Make sure the theme says it "works with current build", and ignore the "Doesn't work with current build" ones.
2.) Make sure the you type the name in the config.cfg file with the same capitalization as the physical file name in the .rockbox\wps folder (so if the physical file is .rockbox\wps\BillyBob.wps, don't type billybob.wps).
3.) Ensure there's a matching file in the .rockbox\wps folder before typing it into the config.cfg file. Not every theme from the website has both a base skin AND a WPS screen! Most are full Themes (with both .sbs Base Skins and .wps WPS screen), but a few are WPS screens ONLY (ie only .wps file with no .sbs file). Rockbox will crash if you add BillyBob.sbs to the config.cfg file if there is no .rockbox\wps\BillyBob.sbs (duh).
4. Make sure the file name on the line that starts with "wps:" line ends in blahblah.wps and the line that starts with "sbs:" line ends in blahblah.sbs. You don't want to mix them up by putting blahblah.wps in the sbs: line. Make sense?
 
Regarding #3, you can still use WPS-only themes. I'm mixing and matching different Base skins and WPS (Sweet for the base skin and Balanced for the WPS screen because I didn't care for the Balanced base skin but I did like its WPS screen). So my config.cfg file looks like this:
 
wps: /.rockbox/wps/Balanced.wps
sbs: /.rockbox/wps/Sweet.sbs
 
It's really not as confusing as it may sound. It takes less than 5 minutes to download a theme, unzip the file, and edit the config.cfg file. It's pretty hard to mess up (and even if you do, you can always just put the original settings back ie Hi-Fi.wps and Hi-Fi.sbs).
 
Once the themes are fixed (they used to work), you won't have to do the file editing business. You would just download & unzip the files, and use the "Settings - Theme Settings - Browse Theme Files" option in Rockbox to change between them. Rockbox will do the file editing magic for you.
 
Let me know if you have any questions. 
 
Mar 20, 2017 at 6:52 PM Post #1,475 of 2,617
  I thought it creates the database automatically?
 
Like you, I only use the file browse method (to select music to play and to create/listen to playlists). Pretty consistently though, if I try to browse files too quickly after RB has booted up, it will freeze or crash with a PANIC error. I have to let it resume the last song it was playing, and wait about 1 minute before file browsing. Doing that causes no problems.
 
Out of curiosity, how many files do you have? And what is the formats (Flac, MP3, OGG, etc)?
 
I need to run the repair utilities posted recently & see if it finds anything.

 
I have mostly FLAC and a few MP3.  My 128GB card is probably only half full, but it's still a lot of music.  Maybe I am just lucky, but no crashes, ever!  That would be annoying to have to wait a minute after booting to browse files!  You could reformat your card...
 
EDIT:  Just read that you updated.  Too bad it wasn't quite painless...if I understand correctly, you can't change the theme by just selecting one within Rockbox anymore?
 
Did it stop crashing for you now?
 
Mar 20, 2017 at 7:01 PM Post #1,476 of 2,617
  If we are all happy with the work XVortex is doing, let's send some love his way for the man's hard work! Even a $5 donation will go a long way in saying thank you.
 
Where would we be without Rockbox on the X3? Stuck with a crap stripped down stock firmware with bugs.

 
Amen!  I wonder how much we'd have to donate to convince XVortex to add HD decoding to Rockbox for us!?!?!?
 
Mar 20, 2017 at 9:06 PM Post #1,477 of 2,617
   
I have mostly FLAC and a few MP3.  My 128GB card is probably only half full, but it's still a lot of music.  Maybe I am just lucky, but no crashes, ever!  That would be annoying to have to wait a minute after booting to browse files!  You could reformat your card...
 
EDIT:  Just read that you updated.  Too bad it wasn't quite painless...if I understand correctly, you can't change the theme by just selecting one within Rockbox anymore?
 
Did it stop crashing for you now?

 
Yes, tried reformatting, as well as 4 different known good cards. Although I have not had any FILE BROWSING-related freezing or crashing (ie PANIC Stkov dircache) on the latest version. Time will tell though - I've only had this update for 24 hours.
 
And you understood correctly - right now on the latest build (on mine and Figuto's at least) Rockbox will immediately crash with a "PANIC TLB Exception" error when trying to change the theme (WPS screen, etc), or when trying to apply a previously backed-up .cfg settings file within Rockbox. You CAN successfully change the font or apply a previously backed-up SOUND cfg though.
 
That's why I don't mind changing the theme using my manual workaround. Since I now have a theme I want, I don't plan on ever changing it and the bug that's causing themes to crash could never get fixed for all I care. Add to that not experiencing any file browsing-related crashes with this new version either, and I consider it a win-win.
 
If other people could take 30 seconds and test Rockbox to see if it crashes, it would be helpful to know how widespread the problem is. If XVortex knows it's happening to everyone, and the issue is easily reproduce-able, it will be much easier to fix. The crash won't permanently change or damage anything - you simply reboot and you're back in business (using your old theme and/or WPS screen). To help test it out do 1 or more of the following 3 things:
 
1. Go to Settings - Theme Settings - Browse Theme Files, and choose anything other than your current theme (cabbiev2 or rockbox_failsafe is fine to test). It should crash immediately with a "PANIC TLB Exception" error followed by a bunch of nerd overload numbers.
2. Go to Settings - Theme Settings - While Playing Screen, and choose anything other than your current WPS (again, cabbiev2 or rockbox_failsafe is fine to test). It should crash immediately with a "PANIC TLB Exception" error followed by a bunch of nerd overload numbers.
3. Go to Settings - Theme Settings - Base Skin, and choose anything other than your current Base Skin (cabbiev2 or rockbox_failsafe is fine to test). It should crash immediately with a "PANIC TLB Exception" error followed by a bunch of nerd overload numbers.
 
Then report back to this thread with the results.
 
Mar 21, 2017 at 6:54 PM Post #1,482 of 2,617
My rockbox crashed when trying to change theme. Panic message.

Thanks slaterlovesspam for showing how to restore.

Managed to get my music collection to load into database. After error checking all my files.
 
Mar 22, 2017 at 5:53 AM Post #1,483 of 2,617
  Has anyone tried Trinity PM4 s with their Rockboxed Xudoo X3 and if so how was the synergy?


Hi, I own both the Trinity PM4 and a Rockboxed xDuoo X3, so I'm in the rare position of being able to comprehensively answer someone's question!
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Actually, thinking about it, that's not really true, since I didn't have other DAP's and IEM's to compare against side by side (the few others I had were broken or dysfunctional).
 
Since I didn't have any other DAP to test them on, I can't comment on synergy as such, but the overall sound was good.
However, reports are that one can get more out of the PM4 by amping them, so you might want to try with an amp too?
 
I had occasional issues with the treble of the PM4 (but I'm unusually sensitive in that area) and an occasional feeling of muddiness/distortion on loud and complex tracks.
This has all been discussed previously over on the Trinity Phantom Series thread, a few people reported this issue and it speculation was that it was due to Trinity not using crossovers.
 
However, relatively minor issues aside, I was able to hear details in the music, spaciousness and soundstaging that I'd never heard before.
So I guess from that point of view, a good combination
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Mar 22, 2017 at 5:56 AM Post #1,484 of 2,617
And having said all that above, I have to say that I've only come back to this thread just now because recently my Rockboxed xDuoo X3 is freezing (needs resetting) or seeming to switch off (but can't power on again; needs resetting too) every day, many times a day and giving me major rageface --->
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Please help me, preferably without making me read back extensively through this epic thread. I'm short of time and stressed lol
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Mar 22, 2017 at 7:10 AM Post #1,485 of 2,617
  And having said all that above, I have to say that I've only come back to this thread just now because recently my Rockboxed xDuoo X3 is freezing (needs resetting) or seeming to switch off (but can't power on again; needs resetting too) every day, many times a day and giving me major rageface --->
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Please help me, preferably without making me read back extensively through this epic thread. I'm short of time and stressed lol
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1. Does your player behave this way in both Rockbox and the original firmware?
 
2. Any other recent changes, such as shortened battery life, shortened time-to-charge, or loss of accuracy of the battery indicator?
 
3. Any recent possibilities of hidden physical damage such as a drop or leaving it in a hot car etc?
 

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