ifI iCan Pro - Impressions & Discussion
Jul 20, 2016 at 10:00 PM Post #181 of 2,267
 
Many have sold their LC to get the MZ2. So itll all depend if youre selling the MZ2
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The MZ2 isn't going anywhere, except maybe to Mojo for the hot rod update (I also have one of those in the house).

I'll just say for now the iCan Pro is the most versatile amp I've ever used, has the best DSP I've ever heard in a headphone amp (it blows away any of the cross feed systems I have tried), and is three different (& very good) amps in one.

What is an MZ2. 
 
FWIW I am most interest in how it compares in transparency and detail retrieval vs the Taurus MK2
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 11:01 PM Post #182 of 2,267
@Wildcatshare1
If you can only have one, MZ2 or iCan Pro?
 
Jul 21, 2016 at 2:02 AM Post #184 of 2,267
I'll just say for now the iCan Pro is the most versatile amp I've ever used, has the best DSP I've ever heard in a headphone amp (it blows away any of the cross feed systems I have tried), and is three different (& very good) amps in one.


The Pro iCAN is an analogue amplifier. There is no DSP. There is no digital circuitry.
 
Jul 21, 2016 at 2:04 AM Post #185 of 2,267
Has anyone compared it directly to the Ragnarok yet, which is at a similar price point?
 
Also, can anyone do the math on the balanced output wattage at 50ohms? Heard it drives the HE-6 real well, but would like to know the actual numbers.
 
Jul 21, 2016 at 3:21 AM Post #187 of 2,267
The Pro iCAN is an analogue amplifier. There is no DSP. There is no digital circuitry.

 
Hi,
 
Correct, even the nano DSD doesnt have DSP. Not our cup of tea!
 
Where they have it, they have ASP - Analogue Signal Processing.
 
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Jul 21, 2016 at 11:53 AM Post #188 of 2,267
Looking forward to hearing this amp, hopefully getting one on loan at some point for review.
 
Jul 21, 2016 at 7:27 PM Post #189 of 2,267
Hmm. This is my fear with this amp - not having heard it of course - versatility as against true excellence, "3 very good amps" instead of 1 excellent amp??? I wonder.


Nah, imagine it more like this: You've got a really super solid state amp with a huge soundstage and crystal-like transparency. Depending on your DAC and the music, what comes in is what's going to come out...for the most part, because it certainly has a "house sound" which is difficult to put your finger on. I suppose it's more like how I described my iDSD micro when I first got it: it just screams analog. It's more like playing an LP as opposed to digital bits.

Now, you flip the switch to tubes. It's the same house sound. There's no difference in feel and quality, but now you have this lush creamy sound, yet without sounding bloated. Simply stated, the difference is smoother, more full and recessed. It's not hyperbole. It's akin to listening to a recording that you know sounds thin, but all of a sudden it doesn't.

I'll make this short, but Tube+ is a combo (simply stated) of SS and Tubes. Now we're really kicking into gear! This is a whole other amp, that has the speed of SS, yet the lushness of tubes. It has the same overall feel, though. You never feel like you're skimping on quality.

I'm short, the more different types of music you listen to, the more you'll get out of this amp. If you're like me you'll find that certain recordings of various vintages sound better depending on your settings. What this means is that you now have more flexibility than any other amp in the planet.
 
Jul 21, 2016 at 10:29 PM Post #190 of 2,267
The Pro iCAN is an analogue amplifier. There is no DSP. There is no digital circuitry.


Whoops, sorry, haven't started the formal review yet, need to get a couple others wrapped. So bad on me for not doing my homework yet, at this point I can only tell you the magic wrought by IFi works in providing an expansive soundstage without adversely affecting the SQ.
 
Jul 21, 2016 at 10:34 PM Post #191 of 2,267
 
The Pro iCAN is an analogue amplifier. There is no DSP. There is no digital circuitry.


Whoops, sorry, haven't started the formal review yet, need to get a couple others wrapped. So bad on me for not doing my homework yet, at this point I can only tell you the magic wrought by IFi works in providing an expansive soundstage without adversely affecting the SQ.

Will you compare it to the MZ2 and Taurus MKII?
 
If as a solid state, it is as clean and separated as the taurus MK2 I am game, otherwise I will just opt for the Cayin IHA-6 since my tube amp is very much what I want from a tube amp.
 
Also I am waiting to see what SCHIIT announces.
 
There are more and more great options out there. As long as reviewers are being honest and aren't schilling one should be able to make a good choice from the variety. 
 
While not so keen on the soundstage option, I am thankful for the bass implementation and honestly wouldn't mind having an amp with a bass switch. 
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 6:00 AM Post #193 of 2,267
My Pro iCAN is now about 200 hours and the sound is very good now. I love this product and happy with spending 250,000 yen to became an owner.
 
I use it as a preamp connected by Balanced from Weiss DAC2 and to MC275 and making a wonderful sound! Very liquid and airly sound
I had an issue of right-left balance but it was a problem in MC275 KT88 tubes. I changed them to Sofia Electronics ones which I stocked and now a perfect sound!
I use iPurifier2 (I like this very much too) too which is connected after Intona to Bel Canto uLink which is connected to Weiss thru S/PDIF.
 
I was using Tube+ mode for last 10 days but back to Tube mode again and I am now comfortable with Tube mode and might stay here. Now interested in rolling tubes but I will try to not doing that until the warranty expires. Hope I can keep myself.
 
Is there anyone who already rolled tubes? It would be nice if someone could share that information here.
 
Jul 22, 2016 at 7:12 AM Post #194 of 2,267
 
 
Is there anyone who already rolled tubes? It would be nice if someone could share that information here.

 
Hi,
 
Unless you can find certain 'unobtainium' tubes, we do not recommend you roll tubes as the GE5670 is pretty hard to beat out of the family of 5670/WE396A/6N3.
 

 
 
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The GE5670 is used in AMR's Signature Edition machines which US$5,000 - so if good enough for AMR, certainly good enough for Pro series! 
 

 
  
 
So rest assured, unless you can find WE396A (Grade A, and NOT Grade B or C) then no point in spending money to downgrade. 
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Jul 22, 2016 at 4:38 PM Post #195 of 2,267
I understand that you just want the remote replaced which I really wanted when it happened to me. I don't know it works in Germany for this kind of initial failure but contact the right person in charge to solve it. It might be worth trying disconnecting AC adaptor for a while which might have been a solution for my case.

I use a universal remote too which can learn by catching the iFi remote to it to learn. For this remote, if the knob moves as much as you keep pressing the remote button so I made several cases to move it much and less.


For everyone who's interested....
I created a ticket and got a quick response from ifi support, excellent !
Few days later I received a new remote which works perfectly now (It is a remote from the retro system).
As soon as an original pro ican remote is available, ifi will send it to me.
 

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