I was one of the odd guys out. I tried to enjoy the PM-3 and actually bought and sold or returned three times. The final time I had some repair issues so I just returned them. To me there was no fun, kinda boring. On the contrary I thoroughly enjoy the SINES.
Exactly my thoughts. PM3 was so boring I returned them immediately. The Sines are much more musical whilst remaining balanced across the spectrum and crystal clear. A really great headphone.
Exactly my thoughts. PM3 was so boring I returned them immediately. The Sines are much more musical whilst remaining balanced across the spectrum and crystal clear. A really great headphone.
The PM-3 has quite a large fan base. As you can imagine when I was part of that thread it wasn't a popular opinion. It wasn't a bad headphone it just wasn't very exciting to listen too. None of my music had me toe tapping.
WOW...I know there are others on here who use headphones for movies...I just fired up The Force Awakens on my Vudu app (ipad pro) and Im thoroughly blown away. These are *fantastic* movie headphones...
Definitely not hollow...it gave a nice weight to the overall impact. I love how these things image, and they created a nice little soundstage that provided some dimension. Vocals were beautifully clear and the dynamics of action scenes were very impressive.
The scene where those creatures that han solo was transporting got out was a blast. All hell was breaking loose but the SINEs held down the audio beautifully.
I do want to reiterate this is with the Cipher. As good as they are plugged in directly, the Cipher or a good quality portable amp does raise the game.
I love movies and tv shows with the T1 or LCD-X, but this is the first time I can say a portable phone gave me almost as much enjoyment. You add this headphone (plus Cipher) to something like an iPad and youve got one hell of a portable entertainment rig.
I just received my SINEs. My first impressions are these:
They most definitely have a premium feel and a nice weight to them. They're solid and stable on the head.
Though only 20 ohms, their sensitivity must be lower than my V-Moda XS, Master & Dynamic MH40 and KEF M500 because I'm finding them relatively difficult to drive from both my phone and my Fiio X5ii. It's no wonder the cipher cable (which I don't have yet) includes an amp section. On the aforementioned headphones I used low gain and replay gain and needed a volume of 110. With the SINE I'm having to use high gain and 120 when replay gain is enabled.
I've only listened to them for a little bit so I haven't really formed much of an opinion yet on how they sound. They're not as "punchy" as I thought they'd be given many of the comments in this thread. The detail is extraordinary. The vocals seem a little recessed, and by way of comparison I now know what is meant by bass bleeding into other frequencies. On the SINES the bass is very much separate and doesn't muddy anything up.
I've usually found the headphone output on the X5ii to be perfectly sufficient for my needs. But I'm getting the impression for the first time with a pair of headphones that they would benefit from a separate DAC/amp. I might have to invest in one of these Mojos everyone keeps going on about.
Does anyone know how the Sine fairs with the Cowon Plenue (the M or the P)? Would they need a separate amp or would this DAP be sufficient on it's own?
Does anyone know how the Sine fairs with the Cowon Plenue (the M or the P)? Would they need a separate amp or would this DAP be sufficient on it's own?
I would have thought you'd be ok (I have the M); It drives the HD-650 well and they're not the easiest headphones to control. They sound terrible when badly amped.
I just received my SINEs. My first impressions are these:
They most definitely have a premium feel and a nice weight to them. They're solid and stable on the head.
Though only 20 ohms, their sensitivity must be lower than my V-Moda XS, Master & Dynamic MH40 and KEF M500 because I'm finding them relatively difficult to drive from both my phone and my Fiio X5ii. It's no wonder the cipher cable (which I don't have yet) includes an amp section. On the aforementioned headphones I used low gain and replay gain and needed a volume of 110. With the SINE I'm having to use high gain and 120 when replay gain is enabled.
I've only listened to them for a little bit so I haven't really formed much of an opinion yet on how they sound. They're not as "punchy" as I thought they'd be given many of the comments in this thread. The detail is extraordinary. The vocals seem a little recessed, and by way of comparison I now know what is meant by bass bleeding into other frequencies. On the SINES the bass is very much separate and doesn't muddy anything up.
I've usually found the headphone output on the X5ii to be perfectly sufficient for my needs. But I'm getting the impression for the first time with a pair of headphones that they would benefit from a separate DAC/amp. I might have to invest in one of these Mojos everyone keeps going on about.
I have never been "impressed" by the impact of a planar. Actually it's probably the last advantage (with soundstage) of traditional hps. On the other hand bass with planar are defined, precise, layered, deep and distortion free. Now I suspect that the "impact" of a dynamic hp is in fact the distortion it adds...
I would say a bass impact on a planar would sound "poum" and on a dynamic "poc".
This last one is probably the distorted version of the first one...
I just received my SINEs. My first impressions are these:
They most definitely have a premium feel and a nice weight to them. They're solid and stable on the head.
Though only 20 ohms, their sensitivity must be lower than my V-Moda XS, Master & Dynamic MH40 and KEF M500 because I'm finding them relatively difficult to drive from both my phone and my Fiio X5ii. It's no wonder the cipher cable (which I don't have yet) includes an amp section. On the aforementioned headphones I used low gain and replay gain and needed a volume of 110. With the SINE I'm having to use high gain and 120 when replay gain is enabled.
I've only listened to them for a little bit so I haven't really formed much of an opinion yet on how they sound. They're not as "punchy" as I thought they'd be given many of the comments in this thread. The detail is extraordinary. The vocals seem a little recessed, and by way of comparison I now know what is meant by bass bleeding into other frequencies. On the SINES the bass is very much separate and doesn't muddy anything up.
I've usually found the headphone output on the X5ii to be perfectly sufficient for my needs. But I'm getting the impression for the first time with a pair of headphones that they would benefit from a separate DAC/amp. I might have to invest in one of these Mojos everyone keeps going on about.
I've had pretty much the same experience with my SINEs. I also have an X5 and also a Mojo. The Mojo drives the Sine with power to spare and it sounds as good as my $699 Audeze Deckard, which was a big surprise.
I've usually found the headphone output on the X5ii to be perfectly sufficient for my needs. But I'm getting the impression for the first time with a pair of headphones that they would benefit from a separate DAC/amp. I might have to invest in one of these Mojos everyone keeps going on about.
This! The Mojo is a nice unit but I sold mine because it was not conducive to pocket carry. So it really depends on what you want to primarily use it for. I do agree about difficulty to drive. My AK120ii sounds great but it requires a lot of volume. My phone has to be at full volume when using it to stream. I have an old Fiio E11 that I have yet to try, I am waiting for a new battery to be sent. It is not the best amp by a long stretch but presently the only one I have here.
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