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Feb 1, 2017 at 11:27 PM Post #3,691 of 22,021
Why can't you have full mids with an airy sound? Airy doesn't have to mean a thinner sound. I would prefer to have both a complete mid frequency that gets the voice right and an airiness that is natural and adds to the transparency of the sound. If you want a thick warm sound like a small nightclub, I don't think this is for you. The WM1A is more digital, to my ears. That doesn't mean it is a digital sounding player but in comparison, to me, it is not as quite as full sounding but at the same time, as mentioned, the DX200 doesn't loose the quality of separation and air around instruments and voice and sounds in general. I think the 1A is better sounding than most daps out there, at least in my experience of what I have and have heard. It steps up from the ZX2 with better power and the ability to carry the music without compressing. 

As far as standards, how do you standardize what different people hear and have them interpret that to what other people will possibly like? I have cited this example in the past but I had a friend with an LP system, all tubes and speakers. He loved it. He didn't like my system that was all tube, different speakers, and a very expensive exotic digital front end. Mine has lots of layering, depth and width and to me, is life-like. His is thick like a smoky room, you can't tell where anything is (no imaging) and I couldn't get a sense of depth but for him, it was perfect. 


I owm the DX200 and WM1Z and tested the WM1A comparing it to other DAPs. I find the DX200 more airy than both Sonys, but I fail to see how you can find the Sonys digital sounding when their whole approach is towards a more analog sound, whereas the DX200 si clearly more reference and unforgiving. I doubt it is a question of pairing as I tried many pairings.

No offence meant, but it just sounds like if, on any given metric, you just say that the DX200 is better than any other DAP, just like you did when the DX90 came out. I conclude that the iBasso sound is particularly to your taste, but I really do not much relate to what you say.
 
Feb 1, 2017 at 11:28 PM Post #3,692 of 22,021
I have no issue if one guy or 40 likes a dap which I dont like. I do have an issue when one or three keeps saying that that dap is better than desk top amps, dacs, and every dap out in the market. I am not anti iBasso, I bought the DX100 on the first day it was released. I am for the DX200 and I stated I will buy it once it improves. Another issue is looking the other eay when anti Fiio members goes on Fiio threads posting anti statements. Again one will face a walk of attacks if one states a displeasure towards the dx200.

 
Dude, if that's how you feel...fine. No need to troll then. No need for anyone to bash you. If you didn't like it fine...if you think the FiiO is on par with it, that's fine too. It's your perogative. But this back and forth is grating on everyone and making everyone edgy. 
 
Feb 1, 2017 at 11:43 PM Post #3,693 of 22,021
I owm the DX200 and WM1Z and tested the WM1A comparing it to other DAPs. I find the DX200 more airy than both Sonys, but I fail to see how you can find the Sonys digital sounding when their whole approach is towards a more analog sound, whereas the DX200 si clearly more reference and unforgiving. I doubt it is a question of pairing as I tried many pairings.

No offence meant, but it just sounds like if, on any given metric, you just say that the DX200 is better than any other DAP, just like you did when the DX90 came out. I conclude that the iBasso sound is particularly to your taste, but I really do not much relate to what you say.


Nope, what I compare to are things like the Hugo and using my desktop amps. I know what I hear and I hear a slight edge to the music on the WM1A that I don't hear on the DX200. If you don't hear it then so be it but what I do hear is a also a less 3D type presentation with the WM1A. That is using my Utopia most of the time. I guess I keep bringing up the Utopia so I must be biased there as well? I just happen to like the Utopia. And I did NOT say it was better than any other dap. Where did I say that? There are daps I have not heard so how could I possibly say that? Please show me where I said it was better than any other dap. 
 
Feb 1, 2017 at 11:53 PM Post #3,694 of 22,021
Nope, what I compare to are things like the Hugo and using my desktop amps. I know what I hear and I hear a slight edge to the music on the WM1A that I don't hear on the DX200. If you don't hear it then so be it but what I do hear is a also a less 3D type presentation with the WM1A. That is using my Utopia most of the time. I guess I keep bringing up the Utopia so I must be biased there as well? I just happen to like the Utopia. And I did NOT say it was better than any other dap. Where did I say that? There are daps I have not heard so how could I possibly say that? Please show me where I said it was better than any other dap. 
It's OK. It is just that you only ever appear on the ibasso DAP threads within DAP threads, and always talking about them as if the best thing since sliced bread. I think the DX200 is an awesome product but you seem very intent on proving it. Of course each one hears what they hear...

Did you use the WM1A balanced? Otherwise it might struggle with large cans and thus the edgy sound.
 
Feb 2, 2017 at 12:01 AM Post #3,695 of 22,021
It's OK. It is just that you only ever appear on the ibasso DAP threads within DAP threads, and always talking about them as if the best thing since sliced bread. I think the DX200 is an awesome product but you seem very intent on proving it. Of course each one hears what they hear...

Did you use the WM1A balanced? Otherwise it might struggle with large cans and thus the edgy sound.


No, I am calling you on this. I am also on the Sony thread and I have been on other like the X7. I also have a the 901 and have been there quite a bit.  And I have had input there regarding sound etc. Do you follow me around reading everything I put in the threads? Don't state things about me that are incorrect and expect it to stand that way. You are out of line. 
 
Yes, I use balanced for most everything since I think both players sound better balanced. 
 
Feb 2, 2017 at 12:12 AM Post #3,697 of 22,021
  It's getting hot in here. Tensions are high. Perhaps everyone should step back a bit and take a deep breath. 


I would agree and generally I am pretty easy going but I do not like to be accused of things that are false. I think in general we need to get back to discussing what this and any of the threads are about in the title. 
 
Feb 2, 2017 at 12:15 AM Post #3,698 of 22,021
No, I am calling you on this. I am also on the Sony thread and I have been on other like the X7. I also have a the 901 and have been there quite a bit.  And I have had input there regarding sound etc. Do you follow me around reading everything I put in the threads? Don't state things about me that are incorrect and expect it to stand that way. You are out of line. 

Yes, I use balanced for most everything since I think both players sound better balanced. 


OK then I am sorry, you are a fair assessor and we hear things differently.

This being said I would advocate anyone to exercise caution if they purchase the DX200 having heard the WM1A and expect a less digital / more analog sound in the DX200. They would be in for quite a surprise in my humble opinion.
 
Feb 2, 2017 at 12:15 AM Post #3,699 of 22,021
It's getting hot in here. Tensions are high. Perhaps everyone should step back a bit and take a deep breath. 
Its just words on your screen.
 
Feb 2, 2017 at 12:20 AM Post #3,700 of 22,021
OK then I am sorry, you are a fair assessor and we hear things differently.

This being said I would advocate anyone to exercise caution if they purchase the DX200 having heard the WM1A and expect a less digital / more analog sound in the DX200. They would be in for quite a surprise in my humble opinion.


That is fair enough. And we can agree to disagree in this case. 
 
Feb 2, 2017 at 1:37 AM Post #3,704 of 22,021
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Photo time before the thread riot starts.

DX200 and Advanced AcousticWerkes W300U
 

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