Chord Mojo(1) DAC-amp ☆★►FAQ in 3rd post!◄★☆
Jan 6, 2017 at 2:58 AM Post #28,381 of 42,789
  can that attachement be used as steamer with other dacs too like hugo ? imho using a phone with the attachment doe not make much sense. i am happy with fiio x3 2gen to mojo.

I feel the opposite. I hate the brick that results from stacking..and the cables too... I can sit and play with my phone will streaming music..so glad I don't have to get a dap.
 
Jan 6, 2017 at 3:02 AM Post #28,382 of 42,789
Jan 6, 2017 at 3:57 AM Post #28,383 of 42,789
Staying with this lens analogy for one moment (yes, it's a very bad one)

There's a reason why good lenses cost so much, and if you ever saw how much precision engineering goes into them you'd also understand. You have multiple glass elements of which some move when zooming or focusing and if anything is a fraction of a millimetre out then the lens simply won't function correctly. That takes some severe engineering ability and production costs.

The Poly on the other hand, from first glance, doesn't actually appear to contain anything that can't be manufactured by a Chinese or Taiwanese facility for a couple of bucks a piece from off the shelf components, or even as a single SoC (in fact I'm sure you can purchase an off the shelf SoC that already does everything needed here). OK there's firmware development and app development to be considered, and then the cost of the Aluminium housing. However that does not make the value of the Poly anywhere near the price being asked for it. In fact I'm sitting here confused as hell as to how this little add-on could possibly cost more than my iPod Touch 128GB which packs in way more technology than it would appear the Poly does. There is, of course, economies of scale to consider, but even so the price of the Poly simply does not compute. Maybe the Poly contains some secret source in terms of upsampling technology, but hang on, we've already been told to leave that to the Mojo anyway.

Now I'm in the fortunate position where I don't actually need to complain about the cost of this device - in fact I'm slap bang in the middle demographic of what I would imagine a typical Chord customer would be. However, I look for value for money in the things that I buy, and I'm really not seeing it here. As an aside I don't see much, if any, value for money in "Summit-Fi" in general, but that's another discussion.

I know that a lot of people here had to really save for a Mojo, a marvellous device I might add, but I can't help thinking this Poly is just price gouging, and has really annoyed a lot of people who did have to scrimp and save for a Mojo.

Sorry Chord, but I really hope some Chinese manufacturer comes along and provides the same or similar functionality for a fraction of the price. Given that the Mojo is a class compliant USB audio device it would be child's play for the Chinese, or anybody else with good electronics knowledge, to do this.
 
Jan 6, 2017 at 4:05 AM Post #28,385 of 42,789
Staying with this lens analogy for one moment (yes, it's a very bad one)

There's a reason why good lenses cost so much, and if you ever saw how much precision engineering goes into them you'd also understand. You have multiple glass elements of which some move when zooming or focusing and if anything is a fraction of a millimetre out then the lens simply won't function correctly. That takes some severe engineering ability and production costs.

The Poly on the other hand, from first glance, doesn't actually appear to contain anything that can't be manufactured by a Chinese or Taiwanese facility for a couple of bucks a piece from off the shelf components, or even as a single SoC (in fact I'm sure you can purchase an off the shelf SoC that already does everything needed here). OK there's firmware development and app development to be considered, and then the cost of the Aluminium housing. However that does not make the value of the Poly anywhere near the price being asked for it. In fact I'm sitting here confused as hell as to how this little add-on could possibly cost more than my iPod Touch 128GB which packs in way more technology than it would appear the Poly does. There is, of course, economies of scale to consider, but even so the price of the Poly simply does not compute. Maybe the Poly contains some secret source in terms of upsampling technology, but hang on, we've already been told to leave that to the Mojo anyway.

Now I'm in the fortunate position where I don't actually need to complain about the cost of this device - in fact I'm slap bang in the middle demographic of what I would imagine a typical Chord customer would be. However, I look for value for money in the things that I buy, and I'm really not seeing it here. As an aside I don't see much, if any, value for money in "Summit-Fi" in general, but that's another discussion.

I know that a lot of people here had to really save for a Mojo, a marvellous device I might add, but I can't help thinking this Poly is just price gouging, and has really annoyed a lot of people who did have to scrimp and save for a Mojo.

Sorry Chord, but I really hope some Chinese manufacturer comes along and provides the same or similar functionality for a fraction of the price. Given that the Mojo is a class compliant USB audio device it would be child's play for the Chinese, or anybody else with good electronics knowledge, to do this.

Speaking of which, I think someone with a 3D printer did make his own version of the Polly using a Raspberry Pi kit and slap in a Full SD Card. Perhaps he can make more of it and sell it to Mojo owners.
 
Jan 6, 2017 at 4:12 AM Post #28,386 of 42,789
Speaking of which, I think someone with a 3D printer did make his own version of the Polly using a Raspberry Pi kit and slap in a Full SD Card. Perhaps he can make more of it and sell it to Mojo owners.


Yeah, just as I posted that, I was thinking about the miniscule cost of a Raspberry PI, and how it would be easy for somebody with a bit of programming expertise to replicate the Poly's function.
 
Jan 6, 2017 at 4:14 AM Post #28,387 of 42,789
Yeah, just as I posted that, I was thinking about the miniscule cost of a Raspberry PI, and how it would be easy for somebody with a bit of programming expertise to replicate the Poly's function.

There is an interest obviously, but at the right price. I don't know what chord is thinking. 
 
Jan 6, 2017 at 4:18 AM Post #28,388 of 42,789
I am still not getting how come Addon is priced more than Mojo. Atleast Chord could have made it to same price. :frowning2:
Salute to the Market research team :) I hope you performed all the statistical tests on sample population properly.
 
Jan 6, 2017 at 4:22 AM Post #28,390 of 42,789
  I am still not getting how come Addon is priced more than Mojo. Atleast Chord could have made it to same price. :frowning2:
Salute to the Market research team :) I hope you performed all the statistical tests on sample population properly.

An accessory which cannot do anything on it's own should be priced lower than the main product it is supposed to be extending. 
 
Jan 6, 2017 at 5:21 AM Post #28,392 of 42,789
If it wasn't for the Mojo itself being so good the extra's since are just making Chord look like greedy elitists ! Its as if they realise they sold the Mojo too cheaply and are now trying to get more profit from the extras:
 
Chord Mojo - £399 .....  
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Chord Mojo Cable Kit £60.... 
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Chord 90% plastic 10% leather case £65..... 
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Chord Poly £599 ....  
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What next ..... 
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Jan 6, 2017 at 5:51 AM Post #28,395 of 42,789
Sorry guys, may be Poly is designed for me, already placed order!

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There's always people with more money than sense so I'm sure Chord will sell some.
 
If I was super rich I'd likely buy one without a 2nd thought to sit along side my Sennheiser Orpheus Headphones !!
 
But more seriously,  Chord tempted many people who would normally get a a cheaper DAC such as a Dragonfly/Oppo HA-2 to stretch to the Mojo at £399 based on the heritage of the high-end Hugo/Dave without the price. Those same people are now annoyed that the accessories are at the high-end cost range, and unless they are hand made/3D printing each Poly there's no way it should be costing £499.
 
I'm annoyed because I was really hoping for something like an iPod Nano type add on that was around 10mm thick that sat on top on the Mojo to match its profile/size, adding screen/controls with 2 micros SD card slots with built in wifi/Bluetooth (based on Android OS for streaming too). Now that I would have paid £499 for.
 
The reason the Mojo was said to be achievable at only £399 is because Chord invested in high tech production lines to shell them out like peas.
 

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