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Jan 14, 2016 at 5:32 PM Post #3,421 of 16,326
davidmolliere said:
Good point, that's still and issue when you claim being able to drive higher impedance headphones with sufficient power...
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Well, I can power my AKG K 712 headphones via Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus but it's super duper HORRID. Absolutely awful.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that my CEntrance HiFi-M8 is capable of powering my headphones beautifully with special attention to speed of transients, tracking and grip.
However I believe the iFi Audio Retro Stereo 50 IS the best amp for the K 712 with amazing resolving power, esp with harmonics alone.

So, the fact that the DP-X1 combines the best elements of each (speed and resolving power, iFi Retro Stereo 50 still wins on harmonics) and introduces a single coherent voice to music, something the other amps cannot do, speaks volumes on the authority the DP-X1 has.

Peter from Double Helix Cables has mentioned that the DP-X1 is not too far off the SQ of his Schiit Audio Yggdrasil and Ragnarok stack with balanced HiFiman HE1000 headphones (confirmed some moments ago with him on FB Messenger his stack).

The DP-X1 has crazy implementation...this is nuts...
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 5:36 PM Post #3,422 of 16,326
What is up with double posting GARGH!

...sorry

Found something to post!

I LOVE Onkyo US marketing BAHAHAHAHA!



Strike through pricey JOKE!
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 5:51 PM Post #3,423 of 16,326
cagin said:
I'd definately add the Spinfit, JVC Spiral Dot, Sony hybrid tips to your collection. And the Meleectronics bi and triflanges along the way. Tips are the cheapest part to upgrade the sound sigs and comfiort :p
Cost does add up when you go pokemon gotta catch em all but it's a one time buy for life. I still gotta hunt down the Sony hybrids, the Meleec and the Westone Startips ^
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I have a full set of Westone star tips I've just found unused in my drawer
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 6:37 PM Post #3,425 of 16,326
whitigir said:
That is a slap in the face on AK rip-off roflmao...
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Yeah I have seen this earlier in the thread, the target is clear, the fact the 2.5 balanced supports the AK standard is obviously aimed at them.
I like that they approach the market with a bang, if they succeed the prices will have to drop even from AK down the line.
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 6:48 PM Post #3,427 of 16,326
badwisdom said:
Hope Onkyo are thinking of a Copper version of the DP-X1.... or maybe a full solid silver one, you know, for better conductivity and sound.
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ROFLMAO, you mean on the circuitry conducted joins and materials ? It won't happen....hell, that is because silver melting point is very high....1763 F....that means it ruins everything on everything
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 6:57 PM Post #3,428 of 16,326
theoneinyellow said:
Multiple tests by Head-Fi'ers on here.

Peter from Double Helix Cables tested Android games and streaming apps.

The only time when an internal DAC of an Android OS is not used is if the app in question bypasses it deliberately (aka Neutron).

Most app designer's will design apps that have audio to be passed to Android, which should pass to a DAC.
This is the standard, has been for a very long time.

Onkyo only modded the OS to implement brand new System Wide features, but these are defeatable if an App was coded to bypass standard Android audio routes, or if a designer who knows of the features can create code to bypass.
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I'm quite a way behind in my reading of this thread so apologies (currently on page 215 of 229)

Here is my 'NON' developer take on your observation above and I am sure a dev can put me straight on this.

In my old days of rooting my Android phones and mocking Phone ID's so that a certain app would work on a phone is wasn't designed for, ROM devs would change or alter the build prop to achieve this.
I do hope with reference to this line in particular
 
"The only time when an internal DAC of an Android OS is not used is if the app in question bypasses it deliberately (aka Neutron)"
 
Would also mean an exception could be written into the code to use the Internal DAC if the app is detected to have been installed on a DP-X1 or XDP-100R
​Or am I over simplifying things?
 
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 7:06 PM Post #3,429 of 16,326
subhakar said:
  And suddenly, Onkyo DP-X1 is the Most Active Thread on HeadFi ahead of Mojo. :wink:
 
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Hence why I have fallen behind here a heck of a lot of activity on this thread.. Most of us on the Mojo thread have had all the questions answered and opinions expressed, with only a trickle of new owners generating activity.
 
EDIT: page 217.....
 
 
 
theoneinyellow said:
Totally NOT my fault :p

Btw, picked up parcel, off home (via bus grr roar)! 
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Parcel is big but should mean it's equally protective!

First impression of parcel box = EXCELLENT muhahahahahahaha!

Unfortunately, yes, I got stung by customs charge, to the tune of £29.25 ($42.16 US)! :'(

Oh well, never mind.

I'll reply to previous posts as best as I can later.
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I'll get to your impressions soon, I'm sure I will,  
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Jan 14, 2016 at 7:19 PM Post #3,430 of 16,326
badwisdom said:
My gain setting was on high by default.

Also, my volume limit was to the max during my short testing.

Apparently the EU version will be identical but if you listen to more than 20hrs at above 130 levels, the unit will shut off !!!!!
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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reizeimako said:
Wait what??
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That's what I said
 
davidmolliere said:
   
What makes you say that???
It shouldn't be identical as EU is the only region with regulations that cripple most audio devices...
 
That would be bad news but I don't believe it.
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Fingers crossed it's a misprint
 
theoneinyellow said:
Just setting up my Onkyo DP-X1, adding my Google Account but only a select number of apps, downloading OTA update, charging, etc.

Will post impressions later after some food, tea, and listening to Onkyo DP-X1!

I must say that the Onkyo DP-X1 is the most beautiful piece of technology I have seen, outside my gorgeous Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus!

Here's some pics for you (in the Spoiler tag):
 
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Jealous?
who me?

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Jan 14, 2016 at 7:25 PM Post #3,431 of 16,326
I know it sounds like the hypetrain pulling into the station, but listening last night with HEK the lines got blurred plenty of times just because the DPX1 was so enjoyable and driving the HEKs with so much authority, vs. Rag/Ygg.  You have to really strain to pick up the benefits of the full size setup, they're there obviously, but it's not as stark as it is with other portable setups and stacks.  And I don't find them particularly easy to drive.  I was comparing with AK120 II the whole time, which sound nice and clean but not quite as explosive as the DPX1.  Also, $1700 lol.
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 7:39 PM Post #3,433 of 16,326
That's just what I have on hand.  While I have little respect for money, even I swerved on the 380.  I only use the AK120 to test cables and I don't listen much outside of the house or on the go, I really just have portable gear for fun.  I'm sure the 380 compares very favorably to it, but it's nearly 6 times the price.
 
One more thing, the AK120 II is the top A&K without native DSD.  So since the DPX1 does not have native DSD either, it's a fair comparison, for testing DSD.
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 7:52 PM Post #3,435 of 16,326
^ Why even worry? How much material do you own that is DSD? Even if there is a sound advantage, are you going to repurchase your collection as it becomes available (if it comes available)? Just curious what you think.
 
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